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    Trump. You are supporting Trump. Trump will ban Muslims again and not just the foreign ones.

    Biden is not the one murdering Palestinians.

    Bebe is.

    Bebe and Trump are buddies. Bebe spoke directly to Congress to humiliate Obama to help Trump get elected. He chose sides and interfered in the US election. Because Bebe is a racist genocidal murderer.

    Sometimes Presidents have to do difficult diplomacy. And it sucks.

    But Trump is coming for all Muslims. Seriously. We cannot have Trump again.

    An American election is a zero sum game. You are forced to pick the least crappy option.

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        But let’s not pretend this coverage doesn’t have an impact on certain voters who throw their hands up and go, “ah hell they’re all the same! I’m not voting!”

        Right-wing operatives are already obviously seizing on this wedge-driving opportunity.

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      Muslims and Republicans have more in common than they like to admit. So they won’t find 4 years of Trump a big problem. Especially the ones that live in the big Muslim communities that aren’t facing much discrimination.

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        They agree on a lot of things - but the color of their skin and the god they respectively worship is a real big divide.

        For anyone on the outside who doesn’t care which god or skin color, they look practically identical.

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          That’s not true. Muslims agree with Republicans on LGBT rights and similar things, but that’s about it. There’s a reason Michigan Arabs tend to vote Democrat and speaking as a Muslim that’s probably because Republican nonsense like “being poor is personal responsibility and nobody has any responsibility to help you” doesn’t resonate with Muslims.

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            Abortion, abstinence, women’s subservience. American Arabs vote democrat because the republicans would be happy if they were dead.

            But if you asked a practicing Muslim and a republican for their views on a wide range of issues except which god you worship, you’ll find there are many more similarities than you are suggesting.

            Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄

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              Famous for their distributing the wealth to people who need it, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are positively wonderful places for the working class 🙄

              I mean those countries aren’t the shining examples of Islam at work so yeah. Gulf countries are like famous for this.

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                Which countries are shining examples of Islam at work? I’m having a hard time coming up with any that don’t have staggering wealth inequality.

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                  1. We had a leader the west didn’t like so they backed a coup that put in a corrupt dictator that they liked

                  2. We had a leader the soviets didn’t like so they backed a coup that put a corrupt dictator in charge that they liked

                  3. The country came out of a coup and installed a popular leader that didn’t want to play ball with the west for various reasons, so the west sanctioned the country until its economy barely functioned

                  4. A colony was given an independence “deal” that forces them to adopt their former colonizers currency, put about half of their reserves in said former colonizers bank, and forced the newly “independent” country to sell the extraction of its natural resources to companies from the former colonizer at disgustingly cheap prices, so what should be a rich country is still poor and the officials of this former colony are bribed by the colonizers to keep the system going.

                  5. The wealthy oil nations used their wealth to give their citizens an extremely good standard of living however either as a result of this or of other reasons (possibly related to culture but thats a different conversation), no one wanted to do menial labor so here comes the importation of cheap foreign labor

                  King Faisal Abdul-Aziz was a descent leader that tried to unite the middle east but he was assassinated.

                  And Islam allows abortion with different kinds of restrictions depending on your school of thought

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                  Most are dictatorships so the attitude of the government doesn’t reflect much except how greedy the elites are, but charity is big in Muslim countries. The whole “pull yourself up by your bootstraps and if you rely on others you’re a leech” attitude doesn’t really resonate with Muslims.

                  That said, if I had to raise an example I’d probably pick Tunisia. Not that they don’t have wealth inequality or poverty, but they’re doing decently well for themselves and have a government that’s actually trying to fix these things.

                  Also almost all of the non-Gulf Arab world has significant social welfare to my knowledge.

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        No. Cornel West has no experience in public office and the Presidency isn’t the place to learn on the job.

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            Eisenhower led multiple armies totaling in the millions in the largest war in human history. Cornel West has a background in *checks notes philosophizing.

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              Lincoln never held public office. lots of presidents make it their first political job.

              edit: whoops. still, my point stands: there is no reason to expect anyone to have experience being president in order to elect them.

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                Abraham Lincoln served as member of the Illinois House of Representatives from 1 December 1834 until 4 December 1842, representing Sangamon County. He went on to serve in to United States House of Representatives for Illinois’ seventh district from 4 March 1847 to 3 March 1849. His time in between was spent practicing law. I know you’re just trying to be disingenuous, but please stop.

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    1 in 200 Gazans were killed, for people who has family in that area of the world, they were someone’s old neighbour, friend or relative.

    I get that not voting for Biden effectively helps the Republicans, but those groups won’t agree to be political pawns, not at least without actions supporting an immediate ceasefire first.

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      Other than the actions Biden has already taken to get a ceasefire, including the one which happened, what specific actions would you suggest that wouldn’t damage his chances at the polls more than it gained him?

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        1. Stop giving billions of dollars of weapons for free to a country actively committing genocide.

        2. Stop spreading false Israeli propaganda (“40 beheaded babies”, “only democracy in the middle east”, “human shields” etc)

        3. When Israel commits war crimes on camera, criticize them publically instead of running defense for them.

        4. Call up Netanyahu and tell him that, if he continues this war, the US will withdraw support for Israel. If it worked for Reagan, why can’t it work for Biden?

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          1: loses more Votes than it gains. Pure stupid to expect much less demand.
          2: citation required. Shti posted in teh press are not in the control of the White House.
          3: loses more Votes than it gains. Pure stupid to expect much less demand.
          4: lil’ baby bibi hates Biden and loves Trump. He also knows that there is no way Biden would be stupid enough to make a threat he can’t back up. The political position and options are in no way similar to fifty years ago as anyone that knows anything about what Ronnie did knows. That is why it can’t work.

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            Maybe it’s time America has a reset if you have people trying this hard to apologize a genocide. Just get on with the civil war.