Let’s be clear, all US elections are rigged in many different ways. This is why the Texas gerrymandering is an issue as well as North Carolina in the past, and I’m glossing over a lot of cases and other methods that are used because it isn’t worth my time mentioning more than those two.
How does any of this matter when Trump won the popular vote? You can’t get around the fact that more than 50% of voters voted for Trump.
I totally agree that your political system is fucked, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that Trump won because he cheated the system or the election was rigged. Trump won because he convinced people to vote on him, and that’s the real problem.
That does not affect the Presidential election. Nice try.
The election was stolen by the Americans that could not even bother to show up and vote. People keep telling me that it is not the fault of people that did not vote for Trump.
Voter roll purges, where and how many polling places, misinformation mailers and calls, super PACs, electoral college, etc. This election, and most every other election, was totally rigged. They suppress voting in huge ways. They hold it on a Tuesday and it’s not a national holiday. Even if your job doesn’t outright stop you from going, a lot of people can’t afford to take that time and go vote. All of this is well documented and carefully orchestrated. Yes, people voted for Trump, but if shit wasn’t rigged he would never even have been on the ballot. Yes, Americans are to blame for this outcome, but it’s not just the voters. This outcome is decades in the making. They just haven’t been nearly so effective in elections past.
I think in Pennsylvania, there were boxes and boxes of ballots abandoned in the woods. In Arizona, a UPS collection box was set on fire in a democratic majority area. There are more direct ways to steal an election than hacking systems. “Here you go grandma, just sign here”
Irregularities != illegitimacy. Independent polling support that Trump had around half of the popular vote. One percent either direction may have changed the outcome but it doesn’t change the legitimacy of the office, either way it was a very close race that either Harris or Trump could have legitimately won.
Therefore it is an absolute braindead take to say that Americans didn’t choose this. They did. That’s not incompatible with the theory that Trump cheated. But the American people doesn’t get to eschew their responsibility in this. Fuck this “no-one admits they voted for Hitler” bullshit.
Oh bullshit. It’s one of the most used and most effective voter suppression tactics. Do you know how many people don’t vote because “Texas is red, so it doesn’t matter”?
It affects statewide races. Anyone telling you it doesn’t is either ignorant or a complete piece of shit trying to convince you of something.
Let’s be clear, all US elections are rigged in many different ways. This is why the Texas gerrymandering is an issue as well as North Carolina in the past, and I’m glossing over a lot of cases and other methods that are used because it isn’t worth my time mentioning more than those two.
How does any of this matter when Trump won the popular vote? You can’t get around the fact that more than 50% of voters voted for Trump.
I totally agree that your political system is fucked, but let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that Trump won because he cheated the system or the election was rigged. Trump won because he convinced people to vote on him, and that’s the real problem.
That does not affect the Presidential election. Nice try.
The election was stolen by the Americans that could not even bother to show up and vote. People keep telling me that it is not the fault of people that did not vote for Trump.
Yes it is.
Stop trying to find someone to blame and fight to get him out of office now.
Voter roll purges, where and how many polling places, misinformation mailers and calls, super PACs, electoral college, etc. This election, and most every other election, was totally rigged. They suppress voting in huge ways. They hold it on a Tuesday and it’s not a national holiday. Even if your job doesn’t outright stop you from going, a lot of people can’t afford to take that time and go vote. All of this is well documented and carefully orchestrated. Yes, people voted for Trump, but if shit wasn’t rigged he would never even have been on the ballot. Yes, Americans are to blame for this outcome, but it’s not just the voters. This outcome is decades in the making. They just haven’t been nearly so effective in elections past.
I think in Pennsylvania, there were boxes and boxes of ballots abandoned in the woods. In Arizona, a UPS collection box was set on fire in a democratic majority area. There are more direct ways to steal an election than hacking systems. “Here you go grandma, just sign here”
Irregularities != illegitimacy. Independent polling support that Trump had around half of the popular vote. One percent either direction may have changed the outcome but it doesn’t change the legitimacy of the office, either way it was a very close race that either Harris or Trump could have legitimately won.
Therefore it is an absolute braindead take to say that Americans didn’t choose this. They did. That’s not incompatible with the theory that Trump cheated. But the American people doesn’t get to eschew their responsibility in this. Fuck this “no-one admits they voted for Hitler” bullshit.
Oh bullshit. It’s one of the most used and most effective voter suppression tactics. Do you know how many people don’t vote because “Texas is red, so it doesn’t matter”?
It affects statewide races. Anyone telling you it doesn’t is either ignorant or a complete piece of shit trying to convince you of something.