• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    Why are they using anything imported anyways? All that the tariffs have done in my life so far is make me question what these “local” “American” companies have been doing. Mind you, two phrases have come back into my speech:

    “No company is your friend, even if they make something you like.” & " Silence, brand!"

    Companies affected by the tariffs are now among the companies whose products I actively avoid.

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      Why are they using anything imported anyways?

      Ah yes, let me just buy local from all of the American tea farms, American bauxite mines, and American aluminum refineries. Oh wait, America doesn’t actually produce meaningful amounts of any of those resources. Pretty much the only thing Arizona would reasonably be able to buy domestically is the sugar.

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        Not to mention any part of the factory automation technology. Capacitors on the circuit board are made in Japan if they’re decent, motor windings from China, solenoids , the lot.

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        The US imports lots of Aluminium and refines it into Aluminum

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      Why are they using anything imported anyways?

      Could be just aluminum for the cans, doesnt have to be that they are importing anything just that suppliers are.

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        Guys…

        The product is called Arizona Iced TEA. The main ingredient is… drumroll brewed tea.

        How many tea-farms do you know of in the US? There are some small-scale ones, but only one large-scale one at 127 acres.

        India has over 800 major estates and ~60,000 small tea gardens across the country

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          And the costs are not high for the tea itself, which is my point. Its hard to say exactly which supplier, what component of flavoring, etc would be an issue for costs that caused an increase (or if they just wanted to use it as an excuse).

          Point is, it doesnt matter why. There are lots of imports for various materials for functionally any company in the US.

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            I’d assume that after years and years of absorbing rising prices, they just are finally at a point where they have to to stay afloat. I’m sure just the aluminum tariffs are a huge reason.

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              I dont know about staying afloat, its just the one kind of can thats been under $1.

              That said, yeah they definitely have less wiggle than they used to. It also goes to show how much they were making on that 99 cent can back in the 90s.

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            I thought it might have something to do with protesting as well, a tad. I mean for sure their costs have gone up, as they have over the years. Exactly because they’ve kept the price the same on purpose and had that as a marketing point, they could now garner quite a bit of attention towards this tariff-idiocy by finally yielding and raising the price. It’s kind of a win-win for them, probably, unless the sales plummet.

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          Then they should have long since been growing their tea and fruit in upstate NY, as well as focusing on sourcing their water responsibly.

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            Because, decades ago, they should’ve guessed that a demented clown will take over the US…?

            Seems a tad unreasonable.

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                Good luck 1) growing tea and fruit in upstate NY and 2) finding the workforce for jobs that quite a significant portion of Americans are literally physically unable to perform.

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            And when the crop doesn’t grow they’re they should just yell at the trees and kick them until they produce more.

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          Complicit in… Importing goods that aren’t made in the US or have a substantially more limited supply?

          What are you saying they are complicit in here, trade with other companies?

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              The practices of buying goods for production? That some resources (aluminum) exist in other parts of the world? That others (tea) are better produced in a different climate?

              What the hell are you even talking about?

              Edit: Just to be clear here - this is a manufactured problem by the POTUS. There is absolutely no reason for the tariffs other than a complete lack of understanding of basic economics. Capitalism (especially effectively unregulated as it is now) is atrocious, but this isn’t an example of capitalism being a problem (well aside from it being used as an excuse to raise prices).

              This is just stupid policies being enacted. Its a tax on Americans and nothing else. This is just as insanely idiotic as slashing a bunch of programs that idiots dont bother to understand, which either are a net benefit for the US or an extremely cheap global benefit, whether humanitarian or economic.

              Short answer: the people in charge are ignorant and destructive.

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      Tea famously does not grow in the US.

      Plus, they sell in aluminum cans, which probably are sourced from Canada or Mexico, or are made in the US from aluminum sourced from Canada or Mexico.

      And of course all of their machinery requires upkeep using parts and chemicals which may or may not be made abroad.

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      It’s the raw goods that American companies need. Most American manufacturers assemble in the United States. So they have to raise prices because if the raw goods imported.

      Trump is so dumb he doesn’t think past his tiny ass hands.

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        If the companies were responsible with all that recycling we’ve been doing over the last half-century, they wouldn’t need to import raw metal. We’d be able to reuse all that glass and metal.

        I guess this might be the only way to get American consumers to understand that the point was always Reduce, reuse, and recycle in descending importance; rather than the other way around.