• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

    Liberals keep saying this, because they weren’t out in the trenches stumping for Harris while getting actively spit on.

    Like, this isn’t just a matter of voting. It’s a matter of staffing campaign offices and galvanizing low info voters in Midwestern swing states.

    Who is going to canvas the neighborhoods once you’ve told all those Penn State freshman with Bernie Sanders bumper stickers and watermelon flags to fuck off? Who is going to phone bank? Who is going to knock doors and host rallies?

    Harris shed fifteen million votes in no small part because she told her activist party base she didn’t need them to win.

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      Bullshit. They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump. That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top, even though we’ve never heard from a single voter who voted that way.

      Where are these diehard Dems who vote for Trump? Or Trumpers who vote all Dem? They don’t exist, the election was rigged.

      And we all know it. Without the White House, he’d be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now. The guy’s entire life is defined by cheating in every possible way, but now we’re supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison, is the one election he ran “fair & square?”

      Any Dem who believes that is as deluded as any MAGA.

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        They rigged the machines in the swing states to switch Harris for Trump.

        That’s a big claim. I’m confident you have some big evidence to explain how Biden won in 2020 with similarly rigged machines?

        That’s how we ended up with MILLIONS of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top

        We didn’t have millions of straight Dem tickets with Trump at the top. We had millions of tickets with only Trump selected and the downballot ignored.

        Trump votes outnumbers a bunch of downticket winners, particularly in the purple swing states (Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania). North Carolina was a peculiar case, in which the Dem Governor outran Harris by 300k votes while Trump outran his GOP Gov candidate by 600k votes.

        A bunch of these races just highlighted how big a disparity was between Trump and the rest of the GOP versus Harris and the rest of the Dems. He was unusually popular. She was unusually intolerable.

        Without the White House, he’d be sitting in prison for the rest of his life right now.

        If only there had been a four year span during which he might have been prosecuted. Ah well.

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          There has never been any evidence that Biden rigged the 2020 election. If you have a source outside of the Conservative Propaganda Machine, cite it, or STFU.

          Besides even if it were true, that doesn’t give Trump permission to rig the next election. Didn’t your Mama teach you that two wrongs don’t make a right? Of course she didn’t, she’s a terrible mother, who raised a MAGA Nazi Traitor, and is probably one herself.

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            There has never been any evidence that Biden rigged the 2020 election.

            If Trump has been rigging the elections, how did he win in 2016 under a Democrat and then lose in 2020 as an incumbent and then win in 2024 again under another Democrat?

            Besides even if it were true, that doesn’t give Trump permission to rig the next election.

            You claimed Trump won 2024 by rigging the election. I’m asking why he lost in 2020 if he had the power to rig elections, but won in 2024 when he lacked that power.

            a MAGA Nazi Traitor

            No one has been more loyal to the institutions of American power than Donald J. Trump. He’s as big a corporate whore and slave to the US military industrial complex as has ever held the office.

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              He lost in 2020 because he is an incompetent moron who can’t do anything right, combined with the fact that America came out by the millions to vote against him. The wave was so big that his pathetic attempts at cheating were overwhelmed.

              But by 2024, they’d had 4 years to prepare, get the Russians involved, and bring in Musk and his team. Add to that the fact that many, many Americans were disgusted by Biden’s (and the rest of the Dems) lack of resolve to prosecute the MAGA traitors. So there wasn’t the giant wave to overwhelm a much more competent cheating attempt.

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                19 hours ago

                This all seems like you’re just spitballing explanations that strike you as plausible, without any actual evidence to back it up.

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                  Both Trump and Musk had multiple private meetings with Putin between 2020 and 2024. Is it plausible that the subject of “guaranteeing” the 2024 election didn’t come up?

                  Is it that hard to believe that the two biggest foreign Sociopathic Oligarchs would team up with the biggest traitor in American history, with the objective of looting America for everything it has? None of them have any sense of loyalty or patriotism to America, and see it only as a fat, lazy, RICH target to be exploited. Of course their first step would be to secure the election, by any means necessary. The alternative is to believe that those three have the moral integrity to rely on a fair election. Which is more likely?

                  Either we choose to believe that, or we choose to believe that Trump only has the best interests of America in mind.

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                    18 hours ago

                    Is it plausible that the subject of “guaranteeing” the 2024 election didn’t come up?

                    No. It isn’t.

                    Is it that hard to believe that the two biggest foreign Sociopathic Oligarchs would team up with the biggest traitor in American history

                    You’re not engaging seriously. You’re just spouting exaggerations and scaring yourself.