• hector@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    If you need a source to explain the inherent conflicts of interest and having the Police lab run by the state police for the police, it would not make a difference anyway. Likewise since you are unaware, and keep scorn on the idea, it shows that you either do not follow the news very closely, or are dishonest about it. Either way think what you want.

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      8 hours ago

      I agree with the principal idea, but if this is as much of a prevailing issue as you’re making it out to be, it shouldn’t be too hard to produce even a single solid source beyond your own convictions of, “Well that’s just how the world works!”

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        8 hours ago

        It’s common knowledge, does somebody asked politely I might have gone to the trouble, or you could just search for Crime Lab people get caught cheating and find pages of results. Or you can search for any number of junk Sciences like hair test analysis. Or not I don’t care what you think. Someone coming from a place of it is preposterous the police would do anything improper is not worth talking to, and as such good day.

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          8 hours ago

          Your issue is you think it’s all or nothing. I never said I didn’t think police would do anything improper. Obviously many of them do. But I’m also not just going to take your assertion based solely on the idea that it’s “common knowledge.” Common knowledge is a term for assumptions people make with no other proof of than, “Yeah, that sounds right to me.”

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            7 hours ago

            You can take my tangential comment that police crime Labs try to give police the results they are looking for or not I don’t care. My point was there should be independent testing of the barrels given the odd circumstances.

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            7 hours ago

            Demanding sources for something you disbelieve on points tangential to the point is something people that want to derail your argument do to put you on the defensive without cause.

            As if I care that you believe the cops are trustworthy or not. The barrels should be tested independently.

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              1 hour ago

              The cops aren’t the ones who tested the barrels. But feel free to keep rearranging the goal posts about backing up a claim with anything of substance.

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                Contracting to a private company amounts to the same thing. If they do not have anything to hide they should have no problem retesting it independently.

                I do not doubt they privatize more and more law enforcement operations so they can pay more for less with worse service.

                Speaking of which, that gives them less credibility not more if it is contracted out. That is less to anybody that has followed events and understands them.

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                  If anyone the police pay to test things is automatically suspect, how are the police to test anything in a way that you’d trust?

                  According to the article, the barrels were independently tested at the request of the defense, which is why we have this whole story in the first place. What would more independent testing accomplish at this point?

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      1 day ago

      Not sure why you felt the need to come back and double-down on having nothing of substance to back up your bold claim whatsoever, but thanks.

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        Because you are purposely being obtuse here because you have an ax to grind defending the police apparently.

        That State Police labs are biased in favor of the police is common knowledge and doesn’t need a source.

        I don’t know why I would waste time with someone that heaps scorn on the idea that the cops would be anything less than forthright.

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          Tripling down on it now!

          Wow…

          We get it. You don’t have even a single example of this to point to.