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    It’s not the stupid ones that threaten the species, it’s the ones smart (and unwise) enough to develop nukes and missiles.

  • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz
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    Well, the only thing needed for genetic material to remain is fucking. That’s why we’re still here, fucking and murdering everything else.

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        It’s not really like that. You only hear about the crazy lawsuits because they are crazy. Local lawyer used to talk about this on the radio.

        You don’t dare bring frivolous shit before a judge. For one, they’ll almost always refuse to hear the case, you lose. Two, you just made an ass of yourself in front of a judge who you will being standing in front of in the future. Three, keep pulling bullshit suits and you can get disbarred.

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          The right to a speedy trial is a joke and on the supreme court sides with corpos or cops 9 times out of 10. District Attornies basically get to deside what LAWS are enforced and there are so many felonies that if any cop spies on anyone long enough they can send them to prison.

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        Libel laws and other censorship across Europe is pretty fucked. As a case in point, some of the highest instances of enforcement of anti-semitism laws in Germany are against Jews protesting for the rights of other Middle Eastern ethnicities.

        And that’s not even scratching the surface of East Asia. The Philippines is straight up fascist. Thialand has some of the strictest Les Majeste laws on the books in any country. The Saudis have fully dehumanized women.

        US product liability laws are pretty tame by comparison.

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          I am talking more the level of litigiousness and constantly erring on the side of mega corps. Sure we have better free speech laws but that doesn’t make up for the fact that people can and are held liable for injuries criminals incure while on their property attempting to rob or vandalise them and customers have no rights to their own property if a corp objects to it.

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    It wasn’t when some lady sued McDonald’s because she injured herself spilling coffee on herself.

    It wasn’t when they started printed “warning coffee is hot” on the cups.

    I realized humanity is fucked when personal injury lawyers made the argument that “actually that lady was right to sue” go viral. Some mix of internet contrarianism, distrust of “mainstream media”, and general dislike of anything “boomers” have said made people so incredibly gullible that they’ll agree with anything that will make them feel smart for being dumb enough to believe coffee isn’t supposed to be hot.

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      https:// allaboutlawyer . com /macdonalds-coffee-lawsuit-burn-pictures/#the-publics-misunderstanding-and-media-sensationalism

      I invite you to take a look at what the coffee actually did to her before you keep running your mouth. NSFL. If you would not like to look, I offer my services as a transcriber to describe it in depth for you. Whatever I can to make this awful lie McDonalds perpetuated to finally go away.

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        allaboutlawyer.com doesn’t make you think this might be coming from personal injury lawfirms?

        Now find me the temperatures cited in the lawsuit and I’ll find the photos I took when I actually measured the temperature of instant coffee when made according to the directions. Spoilers: the temperature even after adding cream and sugar is hotter than the temperature McDonald’s was serving.

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      Coffee isn’t supposed to be served hot enough to give third degree burns causing hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical bills. That’s actually illegal. When the health department gives several warnings and a senior corporate executive orders employees to disobey the law, that makes judges very, very grumpy. Lawsuits are a stupid system, but they literally the only system we have for legally fighting back against corporations. There is nothing else you can do if they wrong you. Spreading the idea that you shouldn’t sue is only taking away your only method of defending yourself within the law. You are being a corporate shill right now.

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        If I spill a pot of boiling water onto my crotch while making Mac & Cheese I’d suffer the same injuries it’s not the Kraft corporation’s fault. Making coffee involves boiling water and McDonald’s is not actually able to change chemistry and make water boil at a higher temperature in their restaurants.

        You can easily just make a cup of instant coffee according to the directions and use a thermometer to verify the whether the temperatures cited in the lawsuit are “too hot”. They actually were lower than the temperature of coffee people commonly make at home. Sorry, you got played by personal injury lawfirms and internet meme culture.

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          You have to boil water to make coffee. You don’t have to serve it still boiling. That is, again, actually against the law to do the way they did it. They were already in trouble for it before they gave that lady third degree burns. They had to go out of their way to set their warmer to boiling, because it’s McDonald’s. They don’t actually make every cup of coffee custom for you. It just comes out of warmer that they get to set the temperature of, and setting that to be too hot to drink would be stupid even if it didn’t burn the crap out of the coffee and leave it tasting like charcoal. They had to knowingly and intentionally break the law to serve coffee that hot. You just got played by your corporate overlords trying to pretend they’re the victims.

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            Another reply linked to an article (by a personal injury lawfirm, naturally) and the temperature cited was 185F. I drink coffee that’s hotter than that every morning. Note that I take my coffee with lots of cream and sugar. It’s above 185F after adding cream and sugar. I drink it when it’s that temperature.

            When people say “coffee is supposed to be hot” you may be assuming that it’s out of ignorance of something you saw on the internet. But it’s not exactly difficult to dip the meat thermometer by my stove into a cup of coffee. It’s possible you may be the one being ignorant of the facts because you’re trusting articles from biased sources without any verification… which is very easy for anyone to do. Yup, coffee is hot.

            I interact with boiling water everyday. It’s dangerous and I know to be careful. Coffee, while not as hot as boiling water, is still dangerous enough to burn me (>185F) if I dump a full cup of it on my crotch. So I try not to do that. It’s actually not that hard, I do it every morning when half asleep.

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              Oh goodie, so now we’ve reached the point where you’re trying to flood the argument with so much meaningless gibberish that you hope it’ll fool someone into thinking that you’re making point somewhere in that mess. I don’t care that you have creamer in your coffee, dude. I don’t really even care that you think a meat thermometer can accurately measure the temperature of liquids. Sure, you can take a tiny sip of 185° coffee. Whatever.

              The facts of the matter are that 185° is hotter than any other chain serves their coffee, they received multiple health code violations for it, serving it at even slightly lower temperatures dramatically reduces the possibility of getting severe burns, McDonald’s knew all this, lied about why they were doing it, ordered their employees to keep getting health code violations anyway, settled with other people out of court before this case for upwards of $500,000 because it was such a small expense for them, only offered this lady $800 for some bizarre reason, the judge actually reduced the settlement to $640,000 before it was actually paid out, and she ended up spending all that money on a live in nurse because she was in so much pain and barely capable of walking for the rest of her life. We do not base our regulations on the assumption that no one will spill any coffee ever. That is an insane thing to assume.

              Have fun giving up your only defense against corporate negligence though. I’m sure that could never possibly backfire.

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      Ms. Liebeck, who was 79 years old at the time, suffered from second- and third-degree burns. These burns were severe, and covered her labia, buttocks, and inner thighs.

      Ms. Liebeck was hospitalized for seven days and spent another three weeks recuperating at home.

      https://gravierhouse.com/2014/10/31/the-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-case/

      They deliberately served the coffee at a temperature far above safe levels, and knew it was dangerous. That’s what got them kicked in the ass in court.

      This response doesn’t reflect well on you at all.

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        On the front page of the site you linked to:

        The Gravier House Press sponsors a collection of books and other writings, including a literary blog and a law blog (or “blawg”), to promote discussion around literature, the media, pop culture, the arts, the practice of law, and substantive legal developments.

        So a site made by laywers is telling you it’s reasonable to sue for stupid reasons. Like I say, it’s a narrative promoted by lawyers.

        The temperature cited on the site is 185 degrees. Seems like a lot, right? It’s no problem to put a thermometer into a cup of coffee. Unfortunately I can’t find the photos the last time I did this very difficult experiment to verify the claim of these lawyers. But science is about peer review, so do you want to measure the normal temperature of coffee or should I?

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            My point is that humanity is fucked because people will believe anything they see on the internet without consideration of the source, basic science, or even common sense. People in the media who are responsible enough to verify claims and don’t report something that’s bullshit are considered to be hiding something while those presenting sensationalized unverified contrarian narratives are considered to be more trustworthy.

            Because of the way social media is consumed, it’s too easy to distract from the real issues. Why did this woman have to sue McDonald’s to pay her medical bills? We commonly deal with boiling water when making food, why is it an accident that could occur to anyone results in financial ruin?

            Next time you make Mac & Cheese you could have an accident and injure yourself similarly to this woman. What are you going to do, sue the Kraft corporation because the process to make Mac & Cheese is too dangerous? Or maybe there’s a better way to handle a situation where someone is injured in an accident than putting them in a situation where they either sue someone or go bankrupt? But I don’t think the personal injury law firms you’re getting your information from want you think that way.