• Five@slrpnk.netEnglish
    50·
    7 days ago

    Even the right-wing reviewers who hate the premise admit it’s a well written film in the vein of heist thrillers.

    It’s a really good movie. Not particularly useful if you actually want to destroy something - they were careful to get a consultant to make sure they didn’t break any laws or create liability for themselves or the studio. If you didn’t see it in theatre, you missed out! I’m really glad the feds are wringing their hooves over it, it deserved much better marketing. It is destined to become a cult classic.

      • Five@slrpnk.netEnglish
        19·
        7 days ago

        The beauty of it is – the people you go with don’t have to be ‘like-minded.’ You can enjoy Oceans Eleven without endorsing theft, you can enjoy HTBUAP without endorsing sabotage. If your friends feel it crosses a line, that’s a very interesting post-film discussion: Why isn’t it disturbing for people to root against the ‘house’ in Oceans? Is it okay to break the law to get rich, but not to do it for justice?

    • dillekant@slrpnk.net
      13·
      7 days ago

      It’s a good movie, but like others have noted, this is not how you do it. 90% of blowing up a pipeline is community building, being able to get the gear you need and carry it out with a lot of people knowing and being able to trust that they won’t rat you out. But it turns out when you have a community like that, well, you don’t need to blow up the pipeline, you can just lobby the government.

      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.caEnglish
        81·
        7 days ago

        I’m sure they’re less worried about the “hows” of it all, than just the promotion of the idea in popular thought.

        • dillekant@slrpnk.net
          6·
          6 days ago

          Yes, exactly this. The book by Andreas Malm had a review which read like “this book is less how to blow up a pipeline, and more why to blow up a pipeline”, and the movie is working on a metaphorical level to argue the case. You’re not meant to emulate it directly.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        7 days ago

        when you have a community like that, well, you don’t need to blow up the pipeline, you can just lobby the government.

        I haven’t seen the movie yet; in which country is it set?

      • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
        2·
        6 days ago

        Lobbying is “begging for permission” from people who have been paid to not care. “Direct action gets the goods.”

        • dillekant@slrpnk.net
          1·
          6 days ago

          Lobbying, protest, etc. These are effective. Money matters less than you think*. Often organising gets the job done.

          • The US is a weird case there, but in general this holds.
          • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
            2·
            6 days ago

            Well, lobbying in the US means “bribing” and if you’re just going to talk to them without money in hand they don’t give a fuck. Since the film is set in the US, that kind of matters. Lobbying against oil anywhere in the world is basically just ignored. Again, direct action gets the goods.

  • millie@slrpnk.net
    1·
    4 days ago

    Wouldn’t blowing up a pipeline just be like, an ecological disaster? Or is this a pipeline that isn’t active yet?

  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
    23·
    7 days ago

    The producers of the movie: “Thank you for the free publicity! Now far more people will watch our movie than every would have otherwise.”

  • Wolf@lemmy.today
    10·
    6 days ago

    Boy, it sure would be a real shame if people did that sort of thing. Like tragic even. Hell I might even shed a tear! (If I’m chopping onions when I hear about it)

  • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
    19·
    7 days ago

    Wow, I really hope no one writes “How to Blow Up a Fractionating Column With a $20 Drone.” Pipelines are pretty easy to mass produce, but attacks on distillation towers like we’ve seen come out of Ukraine can knock out a refinery for years.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
    18·
    7 days ago

    I liked it. Not exactly a “how to” movie but a nice escape fantasy. The East has similar eco terrorism vibes but it tries to focus on too much and misses the mark. HTBUAP is dead on focused on destroying a pipeline and tells that story well.

    • lemmyknow@lemmy.today
      7·
      6 days ago

      I enjoyed the movie. I like how it shows concrete ways in which people can be affected by the matter at hand. Not a “polar bears on thin ice” or similar, but actual effects on everyday people (not that polar bears don’t matter)

    • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 days ago

      I don’t say carry sand in your pockets because pocket sand shashasha. Well not just because that. It’s because of the OSS Manual of Subtle Sabotage.