Some of the highest-ranking officials in the federal government used Charlie Kirk’s podcast, guest-hosted by Vice President JD Vance, to lay out their plans.

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    2 days ago

    oh, get off. I can think of many notable very high profile instances of them attempting to enforce law against Republicans and being foiled because people like you demotivated their voters.

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      9 hours ago

      You think the Democrats needed help demotivating their voter? They did that all by themselves. They were never going to be able to coast forever on being “not as bad as that guy”.

      Establishment Democrats did everything in their power to keep from being a party capable of inspiring anyone. Even so, the entire grass-roots infrastructure of the Democratic party would crumble without progressive volunteers. We’ve stood by this party through insult after insult and failure after failure.

      Even now, with the country in the grasp of full blown fascism, we can’t even get establishment Democrats to reliably back their own fucking nominee for the mayor of NYC. And you think it’s progressive criticism that’s demotivating voters? You are fucking insane.

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        needed it or not, there was a clear effort to divide and demotivate left-of-center voters.

        Look, you’re even doing it now!

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          So what, are we supposed to ignore reality and hope voters don’t notice? You think that’s a reliable strategy to avoid fascism? That’s not how society works. Brushing Democratic party flaws under the rug doesn’t keep voters from knowing the problems aren’t getting solved. Fascism thrives in the vacuum of Democratic ineffectiveness.

          And I wonder if you level the same criticisms when the establishment punches left (which they do far more than punching right). Surrendering to Republican framing on everything from Israel to defunding police to trans issues is what loses elections.

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      Honestly, it’s a very nuanced topic that has no clear delineation of right and wrong. There are some things the Dems will champion, while other things they will abdicate. It’s confusing as fuck to be honest; not to mention mentally exhausting. But at the end of the day, they’re still far better than their conservative counterparts (sometimes barely).

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      They allowed an attempt to end the Republican all but name to go unpunished so I would tell you to get on it not off it. No reasonable person would do anything but scoff at what you say here which I do good sir. I scoff at you.

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      Those damn voters never know what’s good for them so that’s why we will give the GOP so much rope to hang themselves that it reaches the floor!