It’s what I thought of too. It’s because of the premise:
“Everyone will get what they dream of”.
OK, so this guy has his dream team of players. I assume they are real people? What about what they want? Surely the entire team doesn’t want the exact same thing in heaven. And yet there they are, part of someone else’s dream team.
Seems like their agency has been taken away to satisfy one individual.
I think the premise of the joke is illogical because religion is illogical. Heaven is supposed to be perfect, but it can’t possibly be perfect for everybody.
If we’re going to overthink this joke, I would suggest none of it is real and this guy is living in a simulation.
I think the point is everyone would be sinless so it’ll be perfect for everyone. I don’t think the Christian view of heaven is a catering to what you want. It is a precursor to an eternal life in a world free from suffering, pain and death, like eden.
Or, and I know this might be a very difficult concept you’ve never heard of, the “players” are simulations of the real people.
If you know anyone who has ever played a “video game” [i know that these people are very rare and you’ve probably never actually met one] it is possible for a player to control a character. The character is controlled by the player, but the character acts like they would if they were alive.
I realize this is a vastly difficult philosophical question with profound implications, so approach it slowly.
In the joke it says that each individual gets exactly what they want. Since it’s a place beyond the physical world, the rules of reality don’t apply. Maybe everyone who wants to hang out with Jesus or Talulah Bankhead* gets to hang with the authentic original.
Also, nowhere in the joke does it proclaim that your perfect afterlife ends in Heaven. Contextually, it’s obvious that the characters in the joke are Americans and Christians. There may be people who arrive and meet an angel that takes them back to Earth to reincarnate. Or they get reborn on another planet.
And I don’t think telling people to take their time when dealing with grave philosophical matters is nasty.
*Talulah Bankhead, self proclaimed slut and lover of Billie Holiday, among others.
It doesn’t take philosophy training to understand the concept of a simulation. Seemed so basic that the idea at you phrased it just sounded condescending.
Since Heaven is eternal, you will be able to eternally be personally hanging out with Jesus, and everyone else for that matter. It literally won’t end so you won’t ever be in a position where you’re never going to hang out with Jesus again. Even if there’s a thousand year waiting list. But even then time won’t seem unbearable because you’re immortal. There’s no reason to rush to get anything done.
Everything up until this comment at least made sense. The joke is about the guy learning about other real people’s heavens. If those people were only interacting with simulations, then the MC would also interact with simulations, wouldn’t he?
You can’t have exactly your way if you interact with real people.
He would be learning about simulated people’s heavens, so the joke doesn’t work anymore.
I’ve told that joke for years, and you’re the very first person to equate “has a team” with “owns slaves.”
You might want to chat with someone about that.
I actually read the “owning” as video game lingo.
So I am imagining they are playing against a team that really enjoys losing.
It’s what I thought of too. It’s because of the premise:
“Everyone will get what they dream of”.
OK, so this guy has his dream team of players. I assume they are real people? What about what they want? Surely the entire team doesn’t want the exact same thing in heaven. And yet there they are, part of someone else’s dream team.
Seems like their agency has been taken away to satisfy one individual.
I think the premise of the joke is illogical because religion is illogical. Heaven is supposed to be perfect, but it can’t possibly be perfect for everybody.
If we’re going to overthink this joke, I would suggest none of it is real and this guy is living in a simulation.
I think the point is everyone would be sinless so it’ll be perfect for everyone. I don’t think the Christian view of heaven is a catering to what you want. It is a precursor to an eternal life in a world free from suffering, pain and death, like eden.
The players are actually in hell.
Or, and I know this might be a very difficult concept you’ve never heard of, the “players” are simulations of the real people.
If you know anyone who has ever played a “video game” [i know that these people are very rare and you’ve probably never actually met one] it is possible for a player to control a character. The character is controlled by the player, but the character acts like they would if they were alive.
I realize this is a vastly difficult philosophical question with profound implications, so approach it slowly.
So, what if in my heaven, I want everything to be real and not a simulation? I can play Madden on my Xbox on earth. Why would I want that in heaven?
Anyway, your joke created a fun philosophical conversation. Why ruin it by being nasty to others?
In the joke it says that each individual gets exactly what they want. Since it’s a place beyond the physical world, the rules of reality don’t apply. Maybe everyone who wants to hang out with Jesus or Talulah Bankhead* gets to hang with the authentic original.
Also, nowhere in the joke does it proclaim that your perfect afterlife ends in Heaven. Contextually, it’s obvious that the characters in the joke are Americans and Christians. There may be people who arrive and meet an angel that takes them back to Earth to reincarnate. Or they get reborn on another planet.
And I don’t think telling people to take their time when dealing with grave philosophical matters is nasty.
*Talulah Bankhead, self proclaimed slut and lover of Billie Holiday, among others.
https://youtu.be/S3DQw8_Rw48
Maybe you didn’t meant it to sound nasty, but the rest is your comment sounded a bit condescending. Below for instance.
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Also, what did you think of the Talulah Bankhead story?
I started it, but it’s 30 minutes and I don’t understand the connection.
No connection, she was just an interesting person.
embrace serendipity
How do I know what kind of philosophical training people have taken?
It doesn’t take philosophy training to understand the concept of a simulation. Seemed so basic that the idea at you phrased it just sounded condescending.
Since Heaven is eternal, you will be able to eternally be personally hanging out with Jesus, and everyone else for that matter. It literally won’t end so you won’t ever be in a position where you’re never going to hang out with Jesus again. Even if there’s a thousand year waiting list. But even then time won’t seem unbearable because you’re immortal. There’s no reason to rush to get anything done.
Everything up until this comment at least made sense. The joke is about the guy learning about other real people’s heavens. If those people were only interacting with simulations, then the MC would also interact with simulations, wouldn’t he?
You can’t have exactly your way if you interact with real people.
He would be learning about simulated people’s heavens, so the joke doesn’t work anymore.
I realize this is a vastly difficult philosophical question with profound implications, so approach it slowly
Wouldn’t be your dream if it was all just an illusion. One doesn’t expect heaven to be all smoke and mirrors… I mean… If it were to exist.
I realize this is a vastly difficult philosophical question with profound implications, so approach it slowly.
What do you mean the coach doesn’t legally own the players?
What’s the fucking point of owning a sports team then?
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