• ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
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    This is a tangent but, I find it baffling that Americans are one of the most tolerant democracies of abuses of power against common citizens and corruption. Their country was founded precisely to stop both. Their constitution was almost utopian for the time, writing about the irrefutable rights a human has. And look at it now, capitalism and oligarchs have trashed their country. They lack even basic infrastructure such as health care, transportation a functional education system, etc. All for the benefit of rich people who can bypass the broken country by buying normal services and amenities, while less fortunate people are left to fend for themselves. It is a broken country because only nobility can afford human-worthy living standards there. The nobility and oligarchy in the USA are so very effectively blocking the country from having infrastructure that every other civilised country on planet earth has had for decades or even centuries. How the american middle class could let this happen is baffling.

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      The direct answer to your question is that it’s a deep rooted cultural problem that has been with us since the beginning. The problem is the culture of extreme individualism and anti-intellectualism. People want to be completely free and unrestricted in their behavior, whether that harms others or not. Ultimately the desire for the freedom to harm others with impunity is what leads to where we are now. The rich want to be able to exploit their workers harder, men want to be able to beat and rape their wives and control their entire life, pedophiles (see endless stream of republican pedophilia controversies) want everyone to make more babies for them to rape, landlords want to take all your money for the privilege of having a place to sleep, every company that sells goods or services wants to fleece you, and all of these assholes want to have zero consequences for their actions. They gaslight the normies into distrusting the scientists, the educated, the compassionate, because they would actually help people. It’s not even about greed really, it’s about the ultimate extreme of personal freedom. Money just makes you more free.

      So why haven’t we done anything? People have, there’s just a lot of people who want this to happen. A lot of people would cheer as they send me to the gas chamber. The majority of my extended family probably would.

      I hate this place

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        What ever happened to “you have the freedom do do/say what you want but the responsibitly to consider those around you”

        I guess that’s pretty pale when the individualism becomes strong enough that people think they’re the main character

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    If only. All the American leftists with guns are tripping over themselves to explain why it’s not time, and why the second amendment doesn’t apply when the government is rounding up and disappearing American citizens and sending federal troops to cities. They won’t even unify to vote against trump, let alone fight him

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      So are you going to be the general, inspiring and gathering people, and picking targets? Or is this just yet another call for generic violence against any targets so you can feel that others are “doing something.”

      I’m not a killer. I’m not interested in killing random conservatives. I’m interested in things that reduce pain and suffering in the world. Murdering people who don’t agree with me is not the way I want to live my life.

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      And all the conservatives who “own guns to prevent guberment tyranny and fight oppression!!!” are also doing squat all.

      The US is a bit FUBAR ain’t it?

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        I’m not American but know plenty, you’re all pro gun. It’s kinda crazy. Even democrats will defend gun rights. I saw a figure that said something like 61% of democrats are pro gun control, not ban but control. So that leaves 39% that are pro gun, on top of the pretty much 100% republicans who are pro gun rights.

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          I used to be pro-gun control due to the prevalence of school shootings. But seeing what Trump is doing with ICE (literally masked men throwing you into a commercial van) and reading the history of armed resistance (e.g., Black Panthers protecting each other from police brutality) I think it’s time we acknowledge that we are not going to vote our way out of this mess. Let’s not take a means of legal resistance off the table.

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          Oh yeah, banning guns is far outside our Overton window for sure. It’s a career killer for any politician. Just look at Beto O.

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        Being against a civilian arms race seems like a pretty sane policy in a country where school shootings is a national pastime.

        Losing that arms race on walkover while simultaneously losing democratic institutions, that is… unfortunate.

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    Except they only post about their imaginary heroics on the internet, and then sit back on their couch doing nothing.

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    Yeah we really Need to wake up and fight. Even alone, like luigi. Make them scared.

    There are People Who can and probably will, but in many platforms(aside here) Like reddit you cant Say this and i think that really slows It down.

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          Yeah, that’s standard conservative strategy - you are either with us, or you are aligned with whatever group is the current Boogeyman. AFTER 9/11, you either supported everything the government did, including two unfunded endless wars, or else you were an Al Qaeda Terrorist.

          Today there is a choice. If you don’t support Israel and genocide, you are anti-Semitic and Hamas. If you are against MAGA, you are ANTIFA. If you protest, you are a domestic terrorist.

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        Wait, part of hamas? I thought the accusation was being in contact with hamas, which the flotilla itself had claimed

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          The claims are that they were working with/for hamas according to documents they found.

          I didn’t read all the reports and may have missed something but I don’t have the energy to find and debunk Israël claims. The fact remains : you don’t get to drone bomb humanitarian convoys and whatever justification that come afterward is meaningless.

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      “me at my parents age” is in the future. It’s a hypothetical where Elon has a moon palace, something happened to Greta, and an organised resistance has formed.