A bigger outlet repeating the same false claim with the same citation doesn’t make it more true. Or are you saying you know the claim is made up and its worth posting anyways as propaganda?
I’m asking if you’re aware of the fact that the articles you’re posting have no basis in fact. ICE has proven 72 million on equipment, an astonishingly large number. There is absolutely no data or anything at all to lead anyone to believe they’ve purchased “warheads” “guided missiles” or “artillery” as the articles you’re posting claim.
Even just this conversation is something of a proof. You kept hitting me with that “proof” that ICE’s funding is being raised as if would “convince” me of something. You know, being a good debunker trying to realign your “opponents” viewpoint. Correct their values… Where as I wasn’t putting half as much effort into my approach.
Just writing my pro-propaganda poerty. Because poetry, art, humor, propaganda is an art form. Science, logic, rationality, skepticism, debunking - they’re a science, it’s more effort. Take more work. The mindset is more draining. It’s subject to more burnout and isolation.
It’s a case study. Meanwhile the upvotes for this post don’t go away. Nor do the people who didn’t see your correction, who just saw the headline and continued on their way (which I suspect is most reddit/lemmy style users, they’re doom scrolling).
Now apply this to a whole system of posting accross platforms like the alt-right does …and a little debunking can’t really make a dent in the overall effect.
It’s a tool the left can’t afford to avoid. It’s best seen and done as an art, as comedy, with humour, gloss, and pizazz, like Trump does it. That’s what works. Everything’s a commercial. An elevator pitch.
I’ve been a debunker. It only works in a rational society, and only untill the forces of irrationality emmerge again out of emotional need. Propaganda deals with the emotions because people aren’t rational.
A bigger outlet repeating the same false claim with the same citation doesn’t make it more true. Or are you saying you know the claim is made up and its worth posting anyways as propaganda?
Are you asking whether I’ve personally audited all the weapons caches ICE might conceivably have access to?
I don’t even know if you have a face.
I’m asking if you’re aware of the fact that the articles you’re posting have no basis in fact. ICE has proven 72 million on equipment, an astonishingly large number. There is absolutely no data or anything at all to lead anyone to believe they’ve purchased “warheads” “guided missiles” or “artillery” as the articles you’re posting claim.
Is this disconnect intentional?
Where’s your cape? Or maybe you’d prefer a red robe like the Spanish Inquisition.
“Arguing with strangers on the Internet! That’ll improve the world!”
Superhero movies are for douche bags.
Ok.
Even just this conversation is something of a proof. You kept hitting me with that “proof” that ICE’s funding is being raised as if would “convince” me of something. You know, being a good debunker trying to realign your “opponents” viewpoint. Correct their values… Where as I wasn’t putting half as much effort into my approach.
Just writing my pro-propaganda poerty. Because poetry, art, humor, propaganda is an art form. Science, logic, rationality, skepticism, debunking - they’re a science, it’s more effort. Take more work. The mindset is more draining. It’s subject to more burnout and isolation.
It’s a case study. Meanwhile the upvotes for this post don’t go away. Nor do the people who didn’t see your correction, who just saw the headline and continued on their way (which I suspect is most reddit/lemmy style users, they’re doom scrolling).
Now apply this to a whole system of posting accross platforms like the alt-right does …and a little debunking can’t really make a dent in the overall effect.
It’s a tool the left can’t afford to avoid. It’s best seen and done as an art, as comedy, with humour, gloss, and pizazz, like Trump does it. That’s what works. Everything’s a commercial. An elevator pitch.
I’ve been a debunker. It only works in a rational society, and only untill the forces of irrationality emmerge again out of emotional need. Propaganda deals with the emotions because people aren’t rational.
It’s a case study.