• lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    21 hours ago

    Students with dyslexia do get special treatment. There is no reason to discriminate against people lacking an unrelated skill and it’s not funny to demand it so we at least agree on something

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      2 hours ago

      I agree.

      That being said, there’s a difference between having a disability and just not having had enough practice.

      Just having an analogue clock in all rooms and halls of a school is a way to give people the opportunity to get the practice.

      In higher grades you can have an analogue clock in front and a digital “cheat” one in the back. If they’re not sure, they can glance at that. And if that cheat clock is only in every other room. Most will learn because it’s easier that way.

      When reading the clock comes as a topic of the curriculum in 1st or 2nd grade, having the teacher ask a student to read the time periodically from the classroom clock for a few months will make sure everyone has had at least some opportunities to practice.

      Of course, if someone does have a problem bordering on disability, accomodate them. Regardless of whether their parents took the time and money to have it diagnosed or not. But a quarter of a class having it is either bad luck or just bad methodology.

      Edit: all this applies to elementary school.

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        The post talks explicitly about teenagers in exam halls. Don’t know if “exam hall” is a term for regular class rooms but either way it talks about teenagers. True, younger kids should learn it. Even if without practice, you have a hard time as a teenager, you can revive the skill later. Source: I did.

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      20 hours ago

      I am not referring to students with diagnosed disabilities - I am referring to the vast majority without.

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        19 hours ago

        … in the context that many students can’t read analog clocks and shouldn’t get help. Pretty sure there is no official diagnosis for this so no problem and they don’t deserve to know how much time they have left in a biology exam. Again, there is no reason to discriminate against people lacking unrelated skills, if diagnosed or undiagnosed.

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          19 hours ago

          Let me put it this way: if someone is not disabled and still unable or too lazy to understand the clock, they shouldn’t be in the exam room in the first place.

          This is not a “discrimination” - most exams are for the people with a some level of the IQ, certainly above the level of a radiator. Or a stool.

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            unable or too lazy to understand the clock,

            They can understand the clock? Just not the analog clock. Why should they anyways? It’s not like that’s the only way to tell time and since reading analog clocks is an unrelated skill why do u think they’re not fit to write exams? It has nothing to do with IQ, it’s just that analog clocks aren’t as common as they used to be. Hence, they’re less used to them than previous generations. They probably can learn to read them if they wanted to, but they just don’t bother, since they don’t really need it these days

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              19 hours ago

              Just not the analog clock. Why should they anyways?

              Because it is is widely used?

              Why should they learn alphabet in the first place? Why should they learn numbers?

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                19 hours ago

                It’s not really widely used anymore.

                Alphabets can’t be replaced by something easier and more convenient. But clocks can be

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                  19 hours ago

                  It’s not really widely used anymore.

                  Absolute and utter rubbish. Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again.

                  But clocks can be

                  Your point is?

                  Maps can be easy replace with a GPS. Ability to read maps is still (and should be) on the curriculum.

                  Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

                  Go figure 🙄

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                    Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again

                    Digital clocks exist there too

                    Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

                    Cuz the mind is quicker with smaller calculations than a calculator.

                    But analog clocks are harder to comprehend than digital ones