Feel like if it was another country they’d be sanctions or something already.
Because our leaders are pussies. If we all league against them we could raze the country in no time
Nukes.
They are sanctioning themselves.
Other countries are learning how to separate themselves economically from the US more.
Because the US is the biggest market and they’d rather make money then do the right thing.
most of the rest of the world - “someones got to be my exit-liquidity, might as well be the american working class”
Countries need to reduce their dependency on the US first:
- The US is the strongest force within NATO, so with Russia getting more aggressive, Europe and Canada need to quickly build up a stronger army.
- The US is NATO’s largest supplier of weapons, so Europe and Canada need to invest in their weapons industry.
- The US is the worlds largest manufacturer of CPU’s and GPU’s. While there are non-US alternatives, these are not as good and are designed for custom build electronics rather than desktops, laptops and servers.
- Most international payments go via the US (even a lot of international payments within Europe). Countries need to persuade their banks to find new ways to do international payments, but the current system is pretty advantages for the banks, so they are reluctant to agree.
- Most cloud infrastructure is in the US. Other countries will need to move their data out of the US.
- The US is a large provider of humanitarian aid, and the largest exporter of food. Poor countries will have to find a new way to get those resources.
The US is the strongest force within NATO, so with Russia getting more aggressive, Europe and Canada need to quickly build up a stronger army.
Strongest single nation, yeah, but then you address Europe as if it was just one nation, when our combined military might is much more than any single nation is thought to have.
For instance think of how much we Finns fought Russians, when we started with practically nothing to defend ourselves with. Currently we have the largest (and most accurate) artillery in Finland and NORDEFCO and EU defense initiatives. So we got the top of Europe locked down pretty tight.
The US has the largest defense budget and is the most powerful navy, obviously, but we know what to do in our woods. Things even the infamous US marines kinda suck at sometimes. A group of conscripted cooks took down a helicopter of landing marines, that sounds worse than it is, basically the marines just landed and the well camouflaged food group took positions and won the battle or smth some years ago. Now I think it’s been the US helping us, idk how different the Baltic Sea is to ocean operations, and Idk jack shit about navy either as am army. https://yle.fi/a/74-20153073
Anyway wanted to paste something and the older article was now behind paywall so that’s just hyping up Finn US cooperation in helping bust the Russian shadow fleet
Luckily military protocols and treaties aren’t as easily influenced by politics as well, politics. I mean, they are, obviously, but there’s usually just a hint more reason being utilised. That’s what I loved about being in the army. So simple.
A group of conscripted cooks took down a helicopter of landing marines
kinda reminds me of this: https://www.theage.com.au/national/collins-sub-shines-in-us-war-game-20021013-gduomk.html
during war games one of australia’s collins class submarines (diesel electric, quite dated at this point) managed to “kill” a los angeles class nuclear submarine (several times over?) when the US sub was also aided by 2 destroyers
Oh yeah a Swedish sub did a similar thing to the largest US aircraft carrier, iirc. Simulated torpedos ofc but they’re as good as real ones in terms of “we got you”
Yup.
100-mil gotland class sub “sank” a 6.2 billion dollar aircraft carrier.
We Finns haven’t been allowed to have subs for a while, and I’m army, so I don’t know much about those, but it’s the same principle yeah.
The American strategy overlooks certain things sometimes. Trusts too much on technology and not enough on training.
TLDR The USA is the most powerful country in the world, and the world never prepared for a time when the USA would be led by a fascist asshole.
Someone need to convince the US to invade the US in order to give the US some #Democracy™
Don’t you worry. Civil War is still on the horizon. Gotta see how 2026 goes.
Someone need to convince the US to invade the US in order to give the US some #Democracy™
Granted but its for ICE
I hear that the US has oil and WMDs
In some universe WMDs stands for Wario McDonalds the bad sibling of Ronald.
Yup. Europe needs to become self sufficient again and move on from WW2 and the Cold War.
I don’t know what you mean by that. No country or federation in the world is self sufficient. Everyone needs global trade.
Not depending on the US for defending them. (NATO)
Nice tallyup, thanks
The same has happened in something like 25 % of countries, and they haven’t gotten sanctioned for that.
Most of our diamonds and cobalt and cocoa come from countries that have similar problems as USA now does.Send the man a Luger, to be stored in the bunker under the Epstein ballroom
Canadians are not buying America’s shit, and are unlikely to resume that habit anytime soon. It doesn’t take effect immediately, but when you compound it with the other ass backwards trade policies you’re living under now you will all be suffering greatly within a year.
So will everyone, mind you.
When you make an enemy of a friend, you will have to work 7 times as hard to turn that enemy back into a friend.
7x if you use Newtonian classical physics. I think CERN discovered that it’s actually 9.4x harder when you account for the quantum foam. Plus in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy we might just spontaneously make trade deals with other partners.
Because they are too powerful as an enemy. If they were the size of denmark, they wouldnt get away with anything.
The entire economy of the western world is also extreamly connected to the US. Our pension funds invest in their tech stocks, our financial systems use the dollar… And a lot more things that i dont even know.
America is pretty much running the western world. Like it or not. :/
They also spent almost all their money on weapons and high tech support systems. Their “defence” budget is larger than entire Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
Just look at these numbers. America, almost 1000 billion dollars. China, 300 billion, Russia 150 billion, everyone else much much less.
Its a crazy country.
Its not just the Western world.
America got to define the new world order after world war 2.
They accrued 75% of the worlds golds reserves selling weapons to allies.
This allowed them to peg the dollar to gold under the Breton Woods system, making their currency the global reserve currency.
Never mind that scientists and innovators had fled from Eurasia to the US for safety, causing a massive braindrain
This is why they say they won WW2. They were one of few countries that had circumstances tip heavily in their favour due the war.
Yeah.
I have mixed feelings about it. How would the world look if it was China or Russia that managed to do that? How would Europe look?
I have so much western propaganda in me, that i cant judge how Russia or China would be. But looking at their current actions, its hard to see them being peaceful. America is also not peaceful though.
Trump has inspired more trade side deals between countries than any US President in history. It will take 5-10 years to notice but it cannot be reversed and the US will feel the result of an isolationist economy like once Great Britain.
Canada is signing new trade deals every month with not the USA.
We’re doing what we can, I personally boycott US products as much as I can.
Because it’s your own fucking mess.
I could be mistaken, but I don’t think that they’re a US citizen asking for help.
Unfortunately by sanctioning the US, they would be sanctioning themselves. The world just needs to wait for the orange madman to destroy the US economy, which is well on the way.
The rest of the world is slowly routing everything around the USA. Assuming things turns back, there will be a lot to rebuild in matter of trust and commerce.
Now, if you’re talking about what happens inside the USA, well, what do you propose other countries do? Invade? Because that’s not happening. There’s enough to do for damage control outside of it.
