• Auth@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’ve been wanting a sheets alternative and I really do not like libre office. This is huge

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      3 months ago

      Nobody is your friend… but at least proton isnt logging your data and selling ads into your inbox… that’s good enough for me…

      Check your threat model… 90% of people arent doing direct action that needs protection from nation states… and proton isnt big enough to protect you from nation states. (pretty sure they tell you that they have to comply with legal, swiss laws)

      Stop trying to scare people into going back to gmail… there will always be flaws in proton/tuta/whatever mail service…

      Go try running your own email if you truly need perfect privacy and anonymity

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        3 months ago

        100% agree with your take.

        Why scare people looking to ditch google with stupid stuff like “but they complied with the government”, bruh google complies with anyone who has their wallet in-hand.

        ProtonMail is a free inbox and is privacy friendly. Yes there are other options, but this isn’t a bad one by any means.

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      3 months ago

      No email service can refuse to obey the law. None.

      Proton is at least non-profit now.

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    3 months ago

    With all these web based office suites popping up, I wonder if anybody needs these? It seems like a solution pushed onto us that nobody asked for. Everybody I know is still using MS Office or Libreoffice and everybody seems to agree that office on mobile devices sucks.

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      3 months ago

      Real-time collaboration is fairly useful, you can have a videocall or meeting while discussing changes to a document and making them together

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        3 months ago

        Fair point. We usually do that with screen sharing. But then only one person can edit.

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    3 months ago

    Yes!! I remember submitting feedback about this being a must have feature ages ago. Excited to get it

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    3 months ago

    Good news! Unfortunately I’m not sold on having to have a bridge to access their email using Thinderbird, so I’m not subscribing Proton Unlimited “suite”. Also no working Linux client for Proton Drive (rclone’s is unmaintained and not working).

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      3 months ago

      It is technically impossible at the moment to keep your emails end-to-end encrypted and not have to use a bridge for your client of choice. It will only be possible if your client of choice partners with Proton to integrate them, or if a standard for e2e encrypted emails pops up and both Proton and your client adopt it.

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        3 months ago

        Problem is the e2e encryption. The bridge basically decrypts your emails and makes them locally accessible.

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    3 months ago

    Amazing! I don’t even remember seeing this on their road map. Caught me completely by surprise

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    3 months ago

    Does if have FILTER, array formulas, spill zones, MAP, data tables, query engines, SQL engine etc etc?

    To compete with Word: Easy. To compete with Excel: Very, very difficult (pretty much only Google Sheets have managed).

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        3 months ago

        In a personal context, agreed. In a business context, I completely disagree. Analysts, finance, operations etc all have much more complex requirements.

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        3 months ago

        Google Sheets is competing with Excel. Proton Sheets is competing with Google Sheets. So Proton Sheets is competing with Excel.

        I used Word as a comparative example to say that parts of the office/docs suite are easy to compete with (there’s only so may things a word processor can do), while others (like Google Sheets or Excel, whichever order you prefer) is incredibly difficult to compete with; a formatting error on import of a Word doc is acceptable. An unsupported formula ruins the entire thing.

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      3 months ago

      They should have forked Onlyoffice, however I appreciate the effort to make their own from scratch.

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    3 months ago

    I’ve been using open / FOSS versions on Android and desktop for a while. Save those files to Proton Drive. The proton sheets variant needs to compete with those. Initial advantage will be the ability to view docs or spreadsheets natively rather than needing to download. Something Proton has actively NOT done when so many others have found it easy enough.