• NachBarcelona@piefed.social
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    16 hours ago

    OP, how dangerous do you think compared to a wooden pipe it is

    a) according to your education and

    b) after 3 minutes of research?

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    24 hours ago

    did someone say asbestos?

    this is the tailings from the Cassiar Asbestos mine.

    This mine is abandoned, and those tailings contain asbestos. During operation, green dust (asbestos) would blow everywhere. Kids playing in the snow would caution others to ‘eat around the green’ so they don’t get sick.

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    23 hours ago

    Asbestos is an awesome material, until you break it apart and the dust enters your lungs. Before that, asbestos is actually safe to use. So depending on how the pipe looks like, you could still use it.

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      14 hours ago

      They made cafeteria trays with it, all sorts of stuff.

      Black tar under floorboards of old houses has it oftentimes too, but does not go airborne so is not dangerous.

    • Asbestos is pretty soft, I’d be worried about damaging it when cleaning. Though that’s the stoner in me who uses metal tools to clean her pipes, I’m sure there are softer tools, perhaps… Pipe cleaners?

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        AFAIK asbestos was always mixed with another component, as asbestos is basically just lots of small fibers. So depending on what you mix it with, it can be soft or hard.

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    24 hours ago

    I think this can be improved by adding Kents famous micronite filter.

    spoiler

    The “Micronite filter” in Kent cigarettes contained a mixture of crimped crêpe paper and compressed blue asbestos, the most carcinogenic type of asbestos.

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      Asbestos pipe isn’t necessarily as dangerous as it sounds. I don’t know how it reacts with fire (other than not burning), but asbestos in itself isn’t dangerous - it’s only when you breathe the dust that it becomes a problem.

      The entire exterior sheathing of my house is asbestos. I’m literally sitting inside an asbestos box right now.

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        1 day ago

        The mechanics of smoking a pipe involve scraping accumulated ash from the bowl and scowering the stem. There is zero chance this thing isn’t insanely dangerous to smoke.

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          This.

          It’s a case of " A little knowledge is a dangerous thing " combined with " The difference between theory and practice, is that in theory there is no difference between theory and practice "

          • If you only know “asbestos is bad!” this is obvs dangerous
          • If you know “inhaling asbestos fibers is bad” this is maybe NBD
          • If you’ve ever smoked a pipe often enough to clean it, this is obvs dangerous

          (and besides smoking is pre-industrial barbaric; vaping is an elegant weapon for a more civilized age)

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            The difference between theory and practice, is that in theory there is no difference between theory and practice

            It’s why with robot training, they add small random variations in the simulation otherwise things don’t work in practice.

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              24 hours ago

              I stole it too, enough decades ago that I forget who I heard it from. I think it may have been an old grizzled Chem Engineering professor my first semester of college

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              17 hours ago

              Looks like you’re basically right. It’s much better than smoking, but not as good as fresh air. Quick summary:


              Inflammatory Pathways: A 2024 study in the American Journal of Physiology found that regulated cannabis aerosol still induces transcriptomic and metabolomic changes in lung cells. It specifically affects lipid biosynthesis and oxidative stress responses, which are involved in lung repair and function.
              
              Reduced Burden vs. Smoking: Recent human studies (e.g., UC Davis, 2025) indicate that the inflammatory markers in the breath of vapers are significantly lower than those of tobacco or marijuana smokers. Vaping appears to sit in a "middle ground"—cleaner than smoke, but more reactive than non-use.
              
              Fine Particulates: Regulated vapes still produce PM2.5 (ultrafine particulate matter) that can penetrate deep into lung tissue, potentially triggering cardiovascular or respiratory irritation over time.
              
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        Asbestos pipe isn’t necessarily as dangerous as it sounds. I don’t know how it reacts with fire.

        You should have just started with the later.

        There’s always a non zero chance you’re going to breathe in some asbestos as the protective layer breaks down. And it will breakdown one way or the other.

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        It is the dust or small fibers that are inhaled that are problematic, they scar lung tissue and aren’t easily expelled or at all by the body. Asbestos is a natural silicate mineral and was used as a fire retardant since it doesn’t burn and withstands high temps.

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          Not was, still is. Lots of industrial furnaces still use asbestos insulation it’s just not a residential use.