After Israel killed seven aid workers in Gaza, the US says it has not found any incidents of Israel violating international humanitarian law in the past six months. An Al Jazeera probe concluded the World Central Kitchen vehicles were deliberately hit.

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    That is what we call a lie by stating a correct statement.

    Why? It is only a correct statement because Israel has and had already violated International Law before the recent Gaza war.

    A truthful statement would be, “Israel continues to break international law in the current Gaza War as it has done for years and per over 30 UN Resolutions.”

    The power of words, friends.

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    Meanwhile Joe Bellend has given what, over R600 billion ZAR to Isisrael to destroy R500 billion ZAR of infrastructure, rendered all public services inoperable or at best terminal, a homicide rate of 3.6%+ and in the northern half, the equivalent of Nelson Mandela Bay wiped from the map with a food crisis bordering that of Auschwitz (no this is not an exaggeration). Most if not all consular services have also been destroyed, leaving numbers of “external refugees” to seek aid from the UN, whose functions are also in terminal crisis.

    All this with massive praise from the cracker-sphere, whose rhetoric becomes more bloodthirsty by the day, with the stance of “every man, woman, child and infant between Gaza and Gauteng is a terrorist” also starting to become prevalent. Except Ireland; Ireland is the only actually good western country.

    The Jihad against the “African Christian Democratic Party” and the “South African Friends of Israel” will continue until conditions improve.

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    After policy: When you’re the king of the mountain, war crimes are literally what you say they are.

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    As much as I hate it, from my understanding he’s right (expect for genocide). The UN doesn’t recognize Palestine as a country. Ergo internal conflict

    Genocide is one of the only ways a country can break international laws without an international conflict

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      Good point well made.

      It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.

      And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.

      All sides are pretty fucked up here.

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        It is also a fair note. That neither Palestine or Israel has any real claim. The state that owned the land. The otterman empire. No longer existed when the land was allocated.

        What the actual fuck are you talking about. Like seriously, what does it matter that the ottoman empire ruled the land, the Palestinians (including a number of orthodox Jews) lived there. That’s their fucking claim to it

        And while the UK allocation of peoples homes was crappy. The fact that the Palestinian peoples leaders refuse to accept any compromise that allows the existence of Israel. Is also the reason the current mess exists.

        Do you want to interrogate this further, why was it crappy, could it be because the UK had a vested interest in creating a colonial project? And why should the Palestinians compromise, colonizers are coming in, removing them from their homes and killing them indescriminately. How can you even compromise with Israel when they continue to illegally steal land on the west bank and golan heights (and of they had their way Sinai too)

        All sides are pretty fucked up here.

        Go fuck yourself

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    i knew biden would be disappointing but fuck… not “incredibly horrible”

    so, now the election is between incredibly horrible and unimaginably worse…

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      Love that americans are still worried about elections of all things as if anything other than organized violence will stop a capitalist government from committing genocide.

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        Israel is committing the genocide, not america. america is enabling them and thus it’s electorate can influence it’s actions, somewhat.
        the next election will influence the genocide in israel, the genocide in ukraine, and the upcoming genocide against trans people.

        throwing “capitalist” in there doesn’t make you deep. any economic system is capable of genocide.

        most americans are willfully ignorant, but not all of us.

        also, i don’t see whatever country you’re pretending to be from intervening… so maybe work on that

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          Israel is committing genocide with American bombs and American protection and American approval. This war could be ended if Biden just stopped giving them more bombs and stopped protecting Israel from the consequences of its actions. Israel is the 51st State, America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier, it’s an American genocide. We don’t get to hide behind a proxy and pretend we are not directly responsible.

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            This war could be ended if Biden just

            this is a tragically naive take on how things work.

            Israel is the 51st State, America’s unsinkable aircraft carrier, it’s an American genocide.

            now you’re just stringing nonsense together

            We don’t get to hide behind a proxy and pretend we are not directly responsible.

            “we”? oh, now you’re american… it’s not a proxy, they are doing what they want to do.
            if you paid attention a little, israel burn’s buildings down when they run low on bombs… they make their own guns, bullets, tanks, and sniper quad copters… this would not change without american support.

            but, aren’t you going to address the genocide in Ukraine? How do you feel about Russia’s genocide in Ukraine?

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          whatever country you’re pretending to be from

          The american chauvinist cannot comprehend people being from other countries

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          “Israel” is a US colony; it’s entire existence hinges on the latter.

          Its formation used common british colonization tactics [III], with companies literally named “Colonization Commission”, “Jewish Colonial Trust” and the like.

          Theodor Herzl, founder of the colonial ideology he called “zionism”, was himself also just a racist colonizer by his own admission, and saw it as bringing ‘civilization’ to ‘barbarians’ as the rest of Europe did when they were colonizing and enslaving Africa and Asia:

          “We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]

          Only difference now is that the US has been the de facto leader of the imperial core since WW2, no longer UK in Europe.

          And capitalist governments work for the interests and profit of capitalists rather than workers as is the reason for the genocide here (keeping the middle east unstable and unable to unite against imperialism with a colony right in the middle of Africa and Asia), so yes that does matter.

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            “Israel” is a US colony; it’s entire existence hinges on the latter.

            I think I disagree with this.

            Puerto Rico is a colony. There’s a very clear difference in how the empire treats colonies and how it treats extensions of itself. Israel, rather than being a colony, is actually just an extension of the US empire. It’s like the 51st state, it’s an equal partner in the imperial project.

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            you are grossly misinterpreting actions of several governments as american… israel was established post wwii for quite a few people with quite a few reasons.

            even if you wanted to mangle the definition of colony, Israel would still be a former colony and a sovereign nation now.

            but, what are your feelings about russia’s genocide in ukraine?

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                Because they are exposing your hypocrisy?

                It’s always funny to me how .ml users do these mental gymnastics every time they get called out and then throw around the “how dare you” faux outrage.

                I say funny, but it’s more sad how frequent and predictable it’s become lately.

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                  So youre saying we should stop sending arms and money to Russia?

                  Wait, no that can’t be it, so we should send arms and money to Palestine? Based AF

                  But to be serious though, the difference is a country has not brought up formal accusations of genocide in Ukraine before the ICJ. Also:

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              Love how you ignore everything they said and bring up something completely unrelated to derail the conversation lmao

              Edit: but, what are your feelings about the us colony’s genocide in palestine?

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        americans are too chickenshit and comfortable to do anything than complain. i wish we were more like the french.

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          I thought that was what the 2nd Armament was for, but apparently it’s actually for killing school children.

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        The #1 thing I’ve noticed this go round is how the best even the most dem pundits and supporters can come up with is “Yeah Biden does it but Trump will do it worse”

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          I’m not even convinced that’s true when it comes to this issue. Trump, at least, narcissistically cares about what people think of him enough that he could maybe be swayed by public opinion. Biden has been a hardline Zionist his entire career and sees backing Israel to the hilt despite the public outcry as a moral imperative.

          Besides, how do you get worse than eagerly aiding a genocide?

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            Eagerly aiding a genocide while also doing one at home, but you know biden wouldn’t stop it if the fascists just did one, so he’s not really better than trump OK that either.

            At least if trump tries to genocide me, he’ll be using poorly primed hierarchal power and you’ll get a lot of mutinies. Like, a non-trump fasch genocide is blood in the streets, and I’m so fucking shit at that, so my odds are like 10% and its definitely a bad time. If trump orders it, There’s a 50/50 chance the local air force base mutinies and flips on him because poverty draft, and I either get s hellfire missile or I don’t.

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            when Trump was in office, liberals at least pretended to care. They took COVID somewhat seriously, masked up out of spite, they paid lip service to the BLM protests. These past 4 years they’ve truly gone back to brunch. maybe if ol’ Mango Mussolini gets back in, they’ll pretend to give a shit again.

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            Yeah. I don’t know Trump would help this situation at all but it wouldn’t be this bullshit. That’s for sure. And I want to be very clear I do not and did not want a president trump.

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              Ttumo has explicitly said he thinks Israel needs to finish the job.

              Jesus Christ, inform yourself before you say shit like this.

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                Trump says a lot doesn’t mean him or his party would be doing the same if they were in this role lol.

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                  If you want to believe that Ttunp is lying to you about his feelings towards Palestinians, than there is nothing I can say to change your mind.

                  That is pure uninformed lunacy and you absolutely know better.

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        I think all of us need to be keeping a list of accounts such as this one, advocating our websites users commit violence against the US government.

        This person is explicitly a terrorist, a government agent, an idiot, or a combination of all 3.

        Name and shame.

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            I didn’t realize not calling for terrorism on the open web made ma McCarthyite. Somebody just watched Good Night, and Good Luck in AP History, huh?

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              “those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

              “Omg wtf JFK is a terrorist???” - you, apparently

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                Except you are calling out for an Oswald here, not a JFK.

                The sad thing is there might be somebody here stupid enough to fall for it. Doubtful, but maybe God is on your side tonight.

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                  Lee Harvey Oswald was a single man, the poster you’re whining about is calling for mass organized action (that means with a lots of coordinated people). Try to keep up, you’re making yourself look like a clown here.

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          lol at this wannabe cop bootlicker

          Hey, you gonna file a report with your local intelligence branch about people on the internet mad at their governments?

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            If somebody accuses you of being a cop, maybe don’t start acting like a child and then immediately call them a cop.

            It just makes you look uncreative, on top of the other shortcoming previously mentioned.

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              I’m not that guy.

              You should definitely tell the police that people on the internet are making you feel bad though, call 911 asap!

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                What are the chances two completely separate not the same guys could stumble into the same conversation and be that obtuse?

                Fairly high!

                Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.

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                  Wait, don’t give up on trying to convince people to document and rat on each other so easy!

                  Come on, how else are the spooks gonna know who to target if we don’t form a circular firing squad?

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        democracy under capitalism = fascism in cosplay

        no matter how much you organize, grassroots, and petition… evil bastards will steamroll your movements with cash, and add a little concession to whatever you were riling people up about…

        then you get to vote for the guy pandering to you or the guy who isn’t, but they’ll both do the same shit… give more money to rich people any way possible.

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    That is because Washington sees white people as human, and everyone else as subhuman.

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      This is the correct answer.

      I was just gonna say how fucking ironic it is the US became full on Nazis after defeating them 70 years ago. I know Amurica secretly gave the Nazi scientists a place to hide after WWII but what we’ve become is next level. Or maybe we’ve always been this way and it’s just become more evident. Either way, this backing of genocide, killing semitic people using the name of semetic people is white supremacist as fuck.

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      Can’t leave out the christ-centrism that the West exhibits en masse, too.

      To most christians, killing muslims is a good thing no matter what.

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      Because while it is morally crap. It is technically correct.

      Plaistain is not recognised as a nation internationally. And historically never has been.

      So no international law applies to actions being committed.

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        Palestine…historically never has been [a nation]

        Tell that to my 90-100 years old Palestinian grandparents who still have their official government documents from before the colonizers came barging in in 1948.

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        139 out of 193 countries recognise Palestine as a nation internationally.

        Considering they include China, Indonesia, Nigeria, India AND Pakistan, Brazil and Russia, it’s more accurate to say the vast majority of homo sapiens recognise the state of Palestine

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        It has an nation observer seat at the UN, was a nation as a “mandate” after WW1 and the ICJ did make a ruling saying that Genocide was being committed there that the US passed a law threatening Palistine from recognizing.

        On top of this most of the world recognized palistine as a country only 55 of the 193 (194 if we are counting the Holy Sea/Vatican City) do not recognize palistine. I would call that International recognition if 139 members of the UN Recognize Palestine.

        So I really do not get what you are trying to say here, because it is not even techincaly correct, the International Court of Justice, United Nations General Assembly, International Red Cross Cressent and Crystal have all said it is a vioilation of international law.

        This is before I start listing the individual counts of them violating just the geneva conventions, that apply to a signitory when they they fight any war reguardless of if the other side is recognized or a signitory. and agian Palistine is internationaly recognized