• donuts@kbin.social
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      I guess we’ve arrived at the part where a bunch of low-information lemmings come to say that Biden is bad for striking Houti terrorists who have been attacking and hijacking international shipping lanes, after being warned multiple times over the last weeks to stop. Boo fucking hoo.

      Pro tip: when the US military gives you a “final warning” to knock off your shit, maybe listen.

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        The country supplying arms for genocide is bombing the only country that is trying to put an end to it. Yemen is imposing sanctions on Israel because it is committing genocide. Israel should be sanctioned by the entire world. The united states imposes debilitating deadly sanctions on countries for decades simply because they are not under its boot. The United States is evil and no amount of propaganda is going to change that.

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          The Houthis are attacking random ships, not Israeli ships. They were warned to cease attacking civilian ships on one of the largest trading routes in the world, and they didn’t. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.

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            First of all they’re not attacking ships. They are first warning them to reroute and not dock at Israel. When these ships refuse these orders they are boarding the ships and rerouting then without injuring anyone. Their operations are entirely reasonable.

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          The terrorist Houthis in Yemen, like Hamas, are backed by Iran–all three of which have individually called for the genocide and annihilation of Israel.

          Last week America gave the Houthis one final warning (after multiple others) to knock off their piracy and hijacking of international trade routes.

          Instead of widely heeding that warning, they made the very stupid decision to call America’s bluff. As the saying goes “fuck around, find out.”

          By the way, Iran is also an authoritarian Islamic theocracy in which women are subjugated, homosexuality is subject to persecution, and freedom of expression is nonexistent. They represent the model of a Muslim State under Sharia religious law, back Islamic terrorist groups in various parts of the world, are creating instability in the region (like the Oct 7 attacks and these trade route hijackings), and are generally not your friend no matter how much koolaid you drink or what medal you pick up in the mental gymnastics Olympics.

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            6 months ago

            I guess Iran is just really committed to ending genocide then, huh?

            Well, if the shoe fits…

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        so US can fund genocide, but no one can protest it, got it.

        are trade routes more important than actual human lives?

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          Why not ask the human lives on the trade vessels?

          If the US Navy wasn’t swatting missiles and drones, hundreds of sailors would be at the bottom of the sea by now.

          Don’t forget environmental damage from spilled fuel and actual oil tankers that would be damaged. You know, like the Russian tanker they accidentally fired on today even though it had even less to do with them than anyone else in the sea.

          Launching missiles at civilian ships is not a “protest”.

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            can we worry about the environmental damage in palestine too?

            oh the poor crewmembers trying to ignore the known agressive blockade, maybe someone in yemen can go to their rescue oh whoops no they will be leveled by the millions lol.

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              The crew members are there for a wage, and the ships themselves mostly have nothing to do with Israel.

              A huge portion of global trade runs through the area, and it’s not just “trinkets from China” as some like to say. It’s grain, fuel, steel, all of the things that keep the world running in a globalized economy.

              You can’t blockade the entire world and not expect retaliation. If anything, I’m surprised it took this long.

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                well you cant cause a literal fucking genocide and expect there not to be retaliation. is trade more valuable than humans?

                you know what would solve this immediatly without more deaths? stop the genocide.

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                  As ugly as it sounds? Yes. There are nearly 8 billion humans on a planet with finite resources, globally distributed. The resources, unfortunately, are more valuable than any specific subset of humans at this point.

                  Without trade, billions would die. And they won’t be Westerners, they’ll be people who live in places where population exceeds carrying capacity. Namely, the ME and Asia.

                  Yemen in particular is highly dependent on foreign aid. By blocking trade the Houthis are not looking out for the people of their country any more than Hamas is looking out for the people of Palestine. In fact they are the reason Yemen is starving. I’m not sure why so many people on Lemmy are professing support for an illegitimate, theocratic revolutionary force.

                  “Arab countries and all Islamic countries will not be safe from Jews except through their eradication and the elimination of their entity.” - Al-Houthi

                  Yes, the Houthi are real opponents of genocide.

                  If the Houthis really feel like they have a dog in the fight, they could declare war on Israel and deploy and fight rather than harassing non-combatants. They’re nothing but terrorists, not combatants - and if the world agrees on one thing it’s that we do not negotiate with terrorists.

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                    boohoo my stuff is taking longer to arrive.

                    thats a whole bunch of text to justify stopping a blockade but not stopping a genocide. literal genocide.

                    millions dying right now for no reason. stop the genocide and the blockade will stop, so fucking simple.

                    in your analysis you forgot the part where the US is funding it, and caused this whole mess in the first place.

                    but if youd rather have world war 3 over this wtf can i do.

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        Yemen is perfectly within the provisions of international law in blocking Israeli boats from transiting. The only violation of international law is if you claim that Ansar Allah is not the rightful and legitimate government of Yemen.

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          I can only imagine being so brainwashed to believe that the Houthis harassing, threatening and attacking one of the biggest international trade routes on Earth, while indiscriminately targeting ships from various countries and ignoring multiple warnings from the UN, Britain and the US, is in any way legitimate.

          They attacked civilian ships, they were warned not to, they didn’t stop attacking civilian ships, and now they’ve been retaliated against as promised. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to finally stop fucking with international civilian trade ships.

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            But when americans use naval ships to stop civilian ships from getting to Cuba is that them threatening and attacking civilians?

            ignoring multiple warnings from the UN, Britain and the US

            So everyone needs to follow Americas orders without question?

            They attacked civilian ships

            Thats how a blockade works, yes.

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              Thanks for this response, I didn’t have the mental capacity to frame it this well.

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      6 months ago

      I’m voting green and red (Greens, socialists and communists)