I like women. I like the shape and curves of the female body. I like boobs, I like asses, I like pretty vaginas. I also appreciate and am aroused by a nice cock. I’m however not otherwise attracted to the male body. I like femboys as long as they have a feminine-like shape and curves, as many of them do.

WTF is my sexual orientation?

  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Strictly speaking, that’s simply bisexual. Femboys are boys. That being said, there is no “correct” answer here that anyone else can give you.

    The correct label is the one that helps you navigate the world and your own needs the best. If bisexual fits, congrats, that’s it. If it doesn’t, it’s not, and your search continues :)

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      I wouldn’t say bisexual makes sense categorically for anyone who dislikes half of the masculinity/femininity spectrum. I mean it is a bit different with femboys, but I also suspect attraction there is very superficial (esp. if the look uses silicone body stuff) and likely wouldn’t work as much in-person especially on a relationship level.

      There is the term gynephilia, though I also don’t expect something like that to be casually mentioned/understood/accepted. In which case, no good answer I guess.

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        I wouldn’t say bisexual makes sense categorically for anyone who dislikes half of the masculinity/femininity spectrum.

        Bisexual is simply someone that is attracted more than one gender. Nothing to do with masculinity or femininity, so in this case, as I said, it’s a perfectly acceptable label. But if it doesn’t help the OP navigate the world or understand themselves, then it’s not the right label for them. If gynephilia does help them, then that’s the right term.

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      Its not bisexual, assuming bisexual means in this context a biologically born man who is equally sexually attracted to gay men and straight women, or bi men and bi women.

      It also is not pansexual, as there’s clearly /I don’t actually have equal sexual attraction to literally anyone/ going on.

      I am actually like this too, have been for a long time.

      Now, I do not want to presume to speak for this person, so the rest of this is just me.

      Maybe they can chime in and agree or disagree.

      Absolutely not attracted to men, of any kind of presentation.

      But… I’d love to fall in love with a woman who could peg me, or a transwoman. I’d fellatio a transwoman’s unit no problem. But not a gay man, or a bi man.

      So… by that, we’ve got what used to be called basically a kinky guy?

      And while I am an lgtbq ally (or arguably member), Ive always been comfortable with my own male body, and basically present as a cis male.

      So, its some new kind of sexuality/gender there is not really a name for yet.

      At least for me, it isn’t femboy, as I have 0 interest in being essentially a feminine cross dresser with very submissive personality traits and cutesy uwu affectations.

      I have nothing against femboys, but I personally would not be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with one.

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        assuming bisexual means in this context a biologically born man who is equally sexually attracted to gay men and straight women

        Bisexual doesn’t mean that… Bisexual means someone who is attracted to two or more genders…

        At least for me, it isn’t femboy

        The OP explicitly said they’re attracted to femboys, so their experience is different to yours.

        The only person who can say whether bisexual is the right label for the OP though is the OP. But if they feel it fits, it fits exactly the experience they’ve described.

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          Hrm, every self professed bi person I’ve ever met described themselves the way I described them as, likewise with every pan person.

          Didn’t realize the the definition of bi had changed.

          Today I Learned, I guess.

          I’d call that polysexual, if it means attraction to 2+ genders, though I get that the term comes from back before gender itself was really widely critically analyzed.

          And of course polysexual would be confused with polyamorous.

          But yes, you are correct this is the modern definition, so I guess I am bi then.

          But I’d never like identify openly as bi, because, again, everyone I’ve ever met /not on the internet/ would think that means I like dudes and gals.

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            I’ve never met a bi person who insisted that they’re attraction to the genders were equal. Many had preferences (mostly into women, but defintely go with certain guys) and many had phases (more into men today, but was previously crushing hard on that girl). It’s one of the commonly talked about sources of bianxiety, that you can go through a period where you start thinking “am I really bi? Maybe I’m just straight / gay” and then you see someone and remember “no, I’m totally bi”. Bi erasure is such a thing it even effects bi folks! (source am bi, have lots of bi friends)

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            Bisexual is defined as attraction to more than one gender, where gender is a component of the attraction. So if you 96% like one gender, 3% another, and 1% yet another, that’s bi. If you’re 60/40, that’s bi too. Bi = multiple genders where gender plays a factor. It has never meant only 50/50.

            Pansexual is attraction to people where gender doesn’t play a role. Pansexuals’ patterns may look like a bisexual’s patterns because they date across genders, but the attraction matrix is different.

            Finsexual (Gynesexual) is attracted to feminine traits generally. Whether penis or vagina, it is the femininity they like. I can speak to this as this is me. I like feminity, not necessarily women particularly. I use bisexual as shorthand because most people “get” that.

            Solid definitions:

            https://queerdom.fandom.com/wiki/Bisexual
            https://queerdom.fandom.com/wiki/Pansexual
            https://queerdom.fandom.com/wiki/Finsexual

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            It hasn’t. The bisexual manifesto, going back to 1990 for example, said the following

            Bisexuality is a whole, fluid identity. Do not assume that bisexuality is binary or dougamous in nature; that we must have “two” sides or that we MUST be involved simultaneously with both genders to be fulfilled human beings. In fact, don’t assume that there are only two genders.

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              Huh, I hadn’t read it. Everyone I know / knew who identified as bi in the 00s or 10s explained it to me as I said, and that does seem to be the general public understanding of the term by anyone Ive talked to in person in the last 5 years or so.

              Ive also had self professed pan people explain bisexuality to me as I originally described it as recently as 2 years ago.

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                And that is ultimately why everyone gets to pick their own labels irrelevant of discussions like the one we’re having. It’s all subjective and malleable over time!

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    I understand your position. I feel the exact same way. I identify much like you, I am attracted to the feminine features not whatever label you have or what have been biologically created between your legs.

    When I was younger I just told myself “nah I’m straight”, and somewhere realized that i might be what people called “bi-curious”. But after a while I realized I had no interest in masculinity or “regular” males.

    Being able to detach social gender labels from biological genitalia and therefore further deepen my understanding and acceptance of trans and LGBTQ people helped me a lot with accepting myself and my preferences.

    As for your question, it really doesn’t matter. What matters is that you know what you like. Who you decide to spend time with or engage in sexual relations with is up to the people involved and no one else. I ultimately decided to still just call myself straight. Is it entirely correct? Maybe not, but it sure is the easiest.

    Enjoy life, hook up with a femboy, get pegged or have a one night stand with a 6,8 mega masculine dude. It’s up to you, the thing that matters is that you know what you enjoy.

    Life is to short to put labels on dicks and vaginas. Just fuck it instead.

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    Idk, sexual orientations are just labels we make up to make sense of the world.

    “Femmesexual” sounds kind of cool though.

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      I think the term gynosexual already covers it. But yeah, if it’s pretty, fuck it. Labels are a useful shorthand but not always necessary.

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        For me “gyno” has connotations of biological sex/female genitalia because of its use in biology and gynacology etc.

        So I picked femme because it’s more about gender presentation.

        But everyone’s different. Whatever makes OP happy.

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    I once read a personal ad - “single white female, 8 inch clit”

    We have too many labels. You’re a human who knows what you like today. It’s ok if something totally different floats your boat tomorrow.

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      Totally agree. I’m not sure why everyone focuses so hard on determining how many letters there are in their alphabet. 5 years from now it might be totally diff. It would be so refreshing if people simply said “Here’s what floats my boat today”

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    You dont habe to be attracted to all genders the same way to be BI. You can have a preference or stronger attraction to certain genders and presentations. If you think that some non-binary people and fem-boys are attractive then ur probably Bi

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    Sexuality is a spectrum that doesn’t have clean boundaries. Some people exist in an area that could be considered “straight,” for example, but there aren’t hard walls blocking straight people from leaving or queer people from entering.

    The less you try to define your sexuality and the more you try to be comfortable with liking what you like, the happier you’ll be.

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    Very similar position here.

    I’ve always felt that it wasn’t anyone’s business but my own and the person I want to touch. I don’t worry about putting myself in a box so I don’t wear a label.

    Those that “need” to know are told that I am “independent”. What does that mean to me? It means I decide who I want to fool around with. Sex is more than just tabs and slots.

    Although I have found that this answer is unacceptable to nearly everyone, so I can’t say I recommend it.

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      I’m with you, (not on dicks but on my approach to sexuality). I’ll gladly decide what kind of person I want to fuck on a case-by-case basis, but it’s really not a big part of my personality. Statistically, I’m straight, but if I sorted everyone in the world by how much I wanted to fuck them, some dudes would find themselves ahead of some girls. There’s not enough of those cases for me to bother dating guys, but you know

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      As a former warehouse employee I can attest to the value of labels. They’re what ensure that when you order a 3/8 box wrench you don’t get shipped a pair of white bunny slippers.

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    I guess you’re some flavor of bisexual as you are attracted to some men (based on the femboy remark) though you’ve got a distinct preference for femininity even in men. If you go scrolling through old Tumblr posts long enough you’ll probably find a term someone coined back in 2013 for your exact orientation… But, like, IDK man don’t overthink it. If anyone asks just say whatever feels right in that moment, straight/bi/pan/whatever.

    And remember saying you identify with a particular orientation isn’t some huge commitment. Saying you’re bi (for instance) doesn’t mean you’re attracted to all men, and no reasonable person would expect that. We all have preferences within our orientation.

    AITA?

    No. You’re figuring it out. It’s okay to not have all the answers

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      Edit: dear learned and thoughtful internet friends, here “sexual” functions as a self-deprecating double entendre, the thinly veiled meaning of which is “attraction irrespective of sex or gender” or, in the common tongue, “colossal whore.”

      So I am altering this comment for clarity. Pray I do not alter it any further.

      If anyone asks just say whatever feels right in that moment, straight/bi/pan/whatever.

      Especially in mixed company, my go-to is *-sexual where the wildcard * is silent. Those who don’t know will hear a non-answer to a rude question, but your friends will recognize it as candor.

      It also sidesteps the tiresome bi/pan distinction and avoids the least favorable option: “straight.”

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    My interpretation is you enjoy looking at it the same way you enjoy watching other people have fun. You know what it’s pleasure feels like so it’s familiar. I suspect this is also a driving factor for a preference for anal porn. Men don’t know what it’s like to have vagina, but they’ve got some key similarities to a female ass in sensation (that’s not a joke about a butt being a butt, the vagina and clitoris has nerve endings that are stimulated during anal).

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    You get out there and suck a few girl cocks. Only then will you know the truth of your desires. I mean how bad could it be? Personally wouldn’t worry about it. If the dude who’s cock you’re sucking thinks you’re not gay then I would trust him.