They want the US to stop supplying weapons to a genocidal state and actually put pressure on Israel to stop with the wanton destruction. The US is propping up it’s ally with millions of $ in bombs, missiles, and other such weapons in what are ultimately being used to murder men, women, and children that have nothing to do with this war besides live in Gaza. The IDF is murdering, raping, executing, humiliating, mauling, torturing, and harming men, women, and children. Fuck them. The US should not be supporting this sort of treatment of civilians. Did that answer your pedantic, little “gotcha” question gramps?
Unfortunately the military industrial complex demands to be fed and all we have right now are proxy wars. So propping up the IDF it is (along with the much more worthy support of Ukraine)
Damn, if only there were more than just the two options. I mean, we stop funding genocide and then Hamas immediately wins, that’s the only possible way it could go, right?
Are you just dense? The idea isn’t “no funding for Israel” the idea is “no funding for Israel until they start following international law and stop indiscriminately killing.”
Hamas is awful and should be destroyed but two wrongs don’t make a right and Israel is going much too far. Israel isn’t attacking Hamas at this point. They are doing to the Gazans what Hamas did to Israel, but a hundred fold worse. They are acting like either a terrorist organization or a genocidal regime.
I’m all for Israel defending itself. I am mostly okay with funding Israel to defend itself and stand up for itself. I am absolutely not for funding genocide and wars of retribution. At this point Israel needs to be brought to heel and, when safe, needs to be held accountable for its crimes and it’s long term policies of apartheid.
By the way, does this ever work? It’s very clear what I was doing, and the fact that you can’t defend the position when it is worded bluntly says a lot.
In 6-months, Israel has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, and wounded more than 78,000.
70% of those casualties are women and children.
Israel has destroyed more than 221,000 housing units, leaving almost half the population homeless.
Israel has decimated their civilian infrastructure, electricity, water, and sewage.
Israel has destroyed 26 hospitals, killed more than 400 healthcare workers.
Israel has destroyed every single University in Gaza, 56 different schools, and badly damaged hundreds more, leaving over half a million students without access to education.
Israel has violated international law. It has blocked foreign aid to help these people, leaving them starving, sick, destitute, and dying…
…and yet, it’s apparent that you believe that it’s okay for the IDF to do this. The fact that you even have the gall to comment on this either means that you’re so belligerently ignorant of the situation that you legitimately believe that the IDF is in the “right” here - in which case, you’re a reactionist, a weaponized pawn that merely gets angry at what they are told to be angry at (i.e. you are no better than a herded sheep)…or…this means that you legitimately think this is acceptable behaviors, and you exemplify the sickness in humanity that exists today. That wanton death and destruction is okay to you is frankly revolting, and the world will be a better place when you and people like you are gone from it.
But they don’t because they actually value life, unlike the baby killing, house people snatching low life animals that are Hamas.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the fuck are you even on about? Bruh, you literally describe to a T what Israel is doing and then blame Hamas. Or did I miss the 75 years of Hamas bulldozing houses for settlers?
Go cheer on Israel throwing more bodies in a mass grave and lying about the shit they find to gullible rubes.
You all need to stop believing Hamas Israeli funded news sites and look at how they actually, and cowardly, fight Israel the Palestinian people.
“Hamas funded news sites” lol stop, you’re (figuratively) killing me like Israel (literally) murders people in refuge camps and humanitarian corridors.
Edit: I just really have to come back and point out how stupid this comment is
because they actually value life
Because if they actually cared about human life they’d open up aid and not withhold food and water as collective punishments against the uprising caused by decades of Israel not giving a shit about Palestinian lives.
If anyone was wondering if propaganda works, just take a look at that person’s comment… This person clearly does not see Palestinians as human. Not an exaggeration this time. This is what compulsory military service (funded by the largest and most advanced military in the world) in a literal ethnostsate looks like.
Maybe the side that has 1000x the military capabilities could respond proportionately for once in history? Maybe stop murdering children for throwing rocks at IDF soldiers? Maybe don’t indiscriminately kill women and children or bomb hospitals and schools?
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What a boomer question…
They want the US to stop supplying weapons to a genocidal state and actually put pressure on Israel to stop with the wanton destruction. The US is propping up it’s ally with millions of $ in bombs, missiles, and other such weapons in what are ultimately being used to murder men, women, and children that have nothing to do with this war besides live in Gaza. The IDF is murdering, raping, executing, humiliating, mauling, torturing, and harming men, women, and children. Fuck them. The US should not be supporting this sort of treatment of civilians. Did that answer your pedantic, little “gotcha” question gramps?
Unfortunately the military industrial complex demands to be fed and all we have right now are proxy wars. So propping up the IDF it is (along with the much more worthy support of Ukraine)
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Damn, if only there were more than just the two options. I mean, we stop funding genocide and then Hamas immediately wins, that’s the only possible way it could go, right?
Iran and Qatar, who funds Hamas, would, without US Support of Israel, almost certainly carry out their “jihad” (a genocide of its own).
We have to get Israel to stop killing Palestinians, and also get the Arab world to stop killing Jews.
A sad fact is that the money given to Israel saves more lives than it steals.
Are you just dense? The idea isn’t “no funding for Israel” the idea is “no funding for Israel until they start following international law and stop indiscriminately killing.”
Hamas is awful and should be destroyed but two wrongs don’t make a right and Israel is going much too far. Israel isn’t attacking Hamas at this point. They are doing to the Gazans what Hamas did to Israel, but a hundred fold worse. They are acting like either a terrorist organization or a genocidal regime.
I’m all for Israel defending itself. I am mostly okay with funding Israel to defend itself and stand up for itself. I am absolutely not for funding genocide and wars of retribution. At this point Israel needs to be brought to heel and, when safe, needs to be held accountable for its crimes and it’s long term policies of apartheid.
Where did I say I was against Israel following international law and stopping the indiscriminate killing?
Hint: I didn’t.
Do you want to retry having a good faith discussion with me?
Where did I accuse you of being in favor of indiscriminate killing?
Hint: I didn’t.
Do you want to try engaging with my argument that we shouldn’t continue funding for Israel until they stop the genocide and follow international law?
I am sorry but you don’t get to misrepresent me and then demand I respond to your comments based off those misrepresentations.
I am blocking this account of yours for bad faith, but I fully welcome you to try again with one of your alts.
“we gotta genocide them before they can genocide us.”
Yeah dude, pre-emptive genocide. Does Israel have pre-cogs in sensory deprivation tanks or some shit?
I never said that, nor implied that. Did you mistakenly respond to me, or are you just being a liar?
Nope, definitely replied to the right comment.
By the way, does this ever work? It’s very clear what I was doing, and the fact that you can’t defend the position when it is worded bluntly says a lot.
Genocide apologia… Fucking disgusting.
Why would I defend a position that you have invented for me? I’m sorry, but that’s incredibly stupid.
If you have to pretend other people support genocide to feel like you won an argument, that says something about you.
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As evidenced by me getting down voted for saying both sides have to stop killing each other.
The dirty little secret about communists and anarchists is that many of them hate Jews as much as the most extreme Nazi.
Funny you say that, when Israel is a Nazi state
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If you guys don’t mean Jews when you say Israel, why do you respond with Israel when I specifically say Jews?
Hmm
In 6-months, Israel has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, and wounded more than 78,000.
70% of those casualties are women and children.
Israel has destroyed more than 221,000 housing units, leaving almost half the population homeless.
Israel has decimated their civilian infrastructure, electricity, water, and sewage.
Israel has destroyed 26 hospitals, killed more than 400 healthcare workers.
Israel has destroyed every single University in Gaza, 56 different schools, and badly damaged hundreds more, leaving over half a million students without access to education.
Israel has violated international law. It has blocked foreign aid to help these people, leaving them starving, sick, destitute, and dying…
…and yet, it’s apparent that you believe that it’s okay for the IDF to do this. The fact that you even have the gall to comment on this either means that you’re so belligerently ignorant of the situation that you legitimately believe that the IDF is in the “right” here - in which case, you’re a reactionist, a weaponized pawn that merely gets angry at what they are told to be angry at (i.e. you are no better than a herded sheep)…or…this means that you legitimately think this is acceptable behaviors, and you exemplify the sickness in humanity that exists today. That wanton death and destruction is okay to you is frankly revolting, and the world will be a better place when you and people like you are gone from it.
You’re*
The rest of your comment was spot on
Instead we’re letting Israel run rampant on civilians and allowing them to slaughter thousands upon thousands and throw them in mass graves.
Fukkin boomers…
Yeah what reality do people live in where anything that happens in Gaza could ever be seen as “Hamas running rampant on Israel”?
And many of these people truly believe this.The delusion.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the fuck are you even on about? Bruh, you literally describe to a T what Israel is doing and then blame Hamas. Or did I miss the 75 years of Hamas bulldozing houses for settlers?
Go cheer on Israel throwing more bodies in a mass grave and lying about the shit they find to gullible rubes.
“Hamas funded news sites” lol stop, you’re (figuratively) killing me like Israel (literally) murders people in refuge camps and humanitarian corridors.
Edit: I just really have to come back and point out how stupid this comment is
Because if they actually cared about human life they’d open up aid and not withhold food and water as collective punishments against the uprising caused by decades of Israel not giving a shit about Palestinian lives.
If anyone was wondering if propaganda works, just take a look at that person’s comment… This person clearly does not see Palestinians as human. Not an exaggeration this time. This is what compulsory military service (funded by the largest and most advanced military in the world) in a literal ethnostsate looks like.
Oh wow they should be commended for… not being even more awful than they already are.
What a fucking braindead argument.
Look up who funded Hamas to counter the moderate Palestinians.
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lol you really feel irrelevant
We can start with putting a stop to supplying Israel.
Just getting those in power to listen to their good side is a victory. Let the diplomats work out the details.
Maybe the side that has 1000x the military capabilities could respond proportionately for once in history? Maybe stop murdering children for throwing rocks at IDF soldiers? Maybe don’t indiscriminately kill women and children or bomb hospitals and schools?
Pretty straightforward.