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      Yeah, but you’d be profiting from a platform that has repeatedly enabled genocide and other human rights violations, election fraud and the like. And Zuckerberg shows no sign of ever letting them stop as long as it continues to drive engagement and therefore be profitable.

      Do you really want that blood money?

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        Every dollar you earn or spend has blood on it, not to mention the blood dripping from whatever device you used to write that comment. Kind of selective to shit on facebook stockholders like they’re uniquely culpable for the harm unregulated capitalism facilitates.

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          Not uniquely, but worse than most, since FB knows the problems, knows exactly how to fix them and actively chooses not to in order to maximize profits.

          Not to mention that I happen to consider things like genocide and ethnic cleansing the worst of all crimes, which makes abetting those worse than the crimes of most other companies.

          Fact is that Facebook is one of the most powerful entities in the world, more powerful than many if not most countries and they’re knowingly abusing that power for profit.

          There’s nothing weird about holding them more accountable than for example a company with shoddy wages and working conditions. That’s of course unacceptable too, but it’s nothing compared to the atrocities of Facebook.

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            since FB knows the problems, knows exactly how to fix them and actively chooses not to in order to maximize profits.

            Yeah FB is totally unique in that regard- lol.

            They’re just big and public and make a lot of news that you’ve heard about. Dig deeper into the financial system and you’ll find you live in a blood fountain theme park and you’re covered in it too. But I know some people can’t feel good about themselves without feeling morally superior to someone else so I guess if shitting on FB stock in particular is what you need who am I to deny you ;)

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              Again: genocide. Ethnic cleansing. Huge scale election fraud. Basically contributing to the demise of civilized society on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.

              I know that basically all big companies are awful in one way or the other (usually several), but there is such a thing as differences in scale and there’s no doubt that FB is one of the worst of the worst.

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                I know it’s important for some people to have a mascot for evil and I guess FB is yours. Don’t ever look into what the petroleum products you depend on has cost humanity.

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                  I know it’s important for some people to have a hobby and I guess demonstrating the kind of reading comprehension a third grader would be embarrassed of while spewing one whataboutism arter the other is yours.

                  Don’t waste any more of my time with your feigned lack of understanding or genuine idiocy.

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        If you’re basing your financial decisions on moral standings there’s going to be a lot of companies you can’t invest with. I’d argue that in order to be successful you have to unfortunately invest with unsavory people and companies.

        Some of the most profitable companies in the world will be Banks that hid Nazi gold, companies who underpay their workforces, and manufacturers who use child labor in China.

        Obviously I wouldn’t invest with them, but I also don’t have any money to invest. You find me a morally aware investment banker, should be a fun search.

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          If you’re basing your financial decisions on moral standings there’s going to be a lot of companies you can’t invest with

          Obviously.

          I’d argue that in order to be successful you have to unfortunately invest with unsavory people and companies

          Whereas I’d argue that that’s a poor excuse for knowingly profiting off of suffering.

          Some of the most profitable companies in the world will be Banks that hid Nazi gold, companies who underpay their workforces, and manufacturers who use child labor in China.

          Which is why people who value ethics higher than wealth hoarding try to not do business with those companies when it’s avoidable.

          You find me a morally aware investment banker, should be a fun search.

          By definition impossible since stock trading is inherently immoral as it’s a fake wealth casino for the rich with (usually negative) real world consequences for everyone else.

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            I’d argue that that’s a poor excuse for knowingly profiting off of suffering

            It’s not an excuse it’s a justification

            I feel like you’ll miss him the point. You’re expecting people who don’t share your values to share your values. Why would they do that?

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          I’d argue that in order to be successful you have to unfortunately invest with unsavory people and companies

          “I know that I’m gonna have to do sns support non-ethical things. Straight up genocides even. But I personally don’t care, because I want money so I can pretend that ‘I’ve made it’”

          You find me a morally aware investment banker, should be a fun search.

          " Hey, I’m just in the slave trade because it’s so damn profitable. I would love doing it morally, but you try to find me a moral seller of slaves! "

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            Yeah that’s exactly what they think. I’m only pointing it out I don’t agree with it.