Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) went after former President Trump for his legal woes in an interview on MSNBC Saturday.
“I’ll take the individual who’s 81 over the guy who has 91 felony counts,” Swalwell said, making a reference to President Biden’s age in an interview on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday.
“It’s not about two individuals,” Swalwell continued, speaking about the 2024 election. “It’s about the idea of competence versus chaos, or even greater, freedom versus fascism. If we make it about those ideas, and what they mean in our daily lives, we’re gonna win.”
Swalwell’s comments come after Trump was ordered to pay almost $355 million in penalties in a civil fraud case and amid increased scrutiny faced by the president on his age and memory in the wake of a special counsel report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. The report noted that Biden had problems with memory and recall.
How many dead and murdered children do I need to walk over to be an educated voter?
You’re literally happy justifying genocide.
Who are you voting for that is going to stop the genocide?
cornel west or whoever wins the green party nom
you have just told me that you are not voting in the next election. I can appreciate your morality and idealism, but if you’re realistic for even a half second you’d know you’re voting against the greater good.
no, I told you who I’m voting for.
yeah, and as much as it sucks that it’s true, you’re throwing away your vote. I would love to have a replacement to the two party system and first past the pole but that’s not the reality in which we currently exist
if Biden wants votes from people who are going to vote for cornel west or Jill Stein, it’s not as though he couldn’t adopt their policies
That’s true, but who does he lose in the process? Who wins when he loses? Is it better to have incremental change than it is to vote for a fascist backslider? I understand the moral dilemma, but you implicitly enter into another by voting third-party. if you “help” Trump win, don’t you think he’ll also continue the genocide? Who is more likely to pressure an end to the violence?
yeah, we’re kind of left with shit choices but one’s a polished turd and the other one is a festering diseased pile liable to spread.
only voting for trump helps him win.
a vote for cornel west is a vote against all the other candidates
The mass slaughter of children is not a worthwhile cost to pay for incremental change.
Is it that you don’t believe that children under 10 are being intentionally shot in the head by Israeli snipers?
Do you not believe hundreds of children are having limbs amputated without anesthetic after surviving a bombing that orphaned them?
Or does their suffering, that you paid for, just not matter to you?
Neither will stop the genocide because neither is going to win. You may as well pick Mickey Mouse and you’ll accomplish the same thing. Not to mention, the presidency is a bit of a distraction here. Biden has bypassed Congress with some weird legal loopholes, but the bulk of support for Israel comes from acts from Congress.
If by some miracle West or the Green wins, how will they stop an aid bill for Israel if 2/3 of Congress votes for it? Combined, Democrats and Republicans who support Israel have the numbers to easily overcome a veto. Unless you’ve got third party candidates who can win over 1/3 of the seats in both chambers of Congress, it doesn’t matter if the president is anti genocide.
If someone truly wants to end the Palestinian genocide, they need to win a lot of Congressional seats. Tell me, what does it say that West and the Greens are much more focused on the presidency than on building up Senate and House candidates? Either they’re pathetically naive, or they’re just lying to your face and trying to get your money. Considering the Green Party has no issues with Stein dining with hyper capitalists, I believe it’s the latter.
as the chief diplomat, the president actually has the executive power decide if or when the aid ever gets delivered.all congress can do is authorize the spending.
>Tell me, what does it say that West and the Greens are much more focused on the presidency than on building up Senate and House candidates?
i think it means they didn’t hire you as a political consultant. which is great because i f they did it looks like your advice would be “drop out”
>You may as well pick Mickey Mouse and you’ll accomplish the same thing.
this is election misinformation: a vote for either of them will count for the candidate who received the vote. a vote for mickey mouse will not.
> Considering the Green Party has no issues with Stein dining with hyper capitalists, I believe it’s the latter.
i voted for her in 2016, and i’d do it again if i had a time machine. this year, i’m planning to vote cornel, but i could be swayed to vote for stein if she does something rad.
>Neither will stop the genocide because neither is going to win
you can’t prove this
>If someone truly wants to end the Palestinian genocide, they need to win a lot of Congressional seats.
i’m sure there are other ways.
If you weren’t an irrational idealist that is a net detriment to American society you would vote Biden and donate money to STAR and RCV initiatives.
calling me irrational and a detriment to society are personal attacks. they don’t make me want to vote for someone whose policies i don’t like.
I would call someone who litters an irrational detriment to society. Is that a personal attack? Is it not irrational to pollute your own environment? Is it a benefit to society to litter?
You’re doing the wrong thing and it’s ok for me to tell you it’s wrong and why.
saying that the act is irrational or that **someone** who does it is acting irrationally is one thing, but to directly call someone irrational **is** a personal attack.
it’s not a fact. it’s an opinion. it’s an ad hominem that doesn’t change the truth of anything that’s been said.
Funny how people aren’t mad at the person committing genocide for taking an action that will likely hand the election to the person they think will end democracy.
Instead, they’re mad at the people saying they won’t vote for genocide.
Tell me, would you be mad at me if I was in Michigan, Palestinian, and had family members murdered in the current genocide?
I’m not, I’m just curious how far your selective moral outrage will go. I want to see how selfish/racist you are.
“Who are you voting for that is going to stop the genocide?”
Which part exactly makes you believe they’re morally outraged or mad or whatever else you want to call them? Stop making stuff up if you’re out of arguments. Just move to a different thread.
The only selfish one here is you. Since you’d rather vote for someone who has no chance of winning just because it helps you sleep better at night.
So you’re the selfish one? Biden has no chance of winning.
Explain to me how he wins the electoral college without Michigan. Explain to me how he wins Michigan without the Muslim vote.
Go on.
I’ll wait for you to do the fucking math.
Again changing the subject when you’ve got no arguments. GG. I’m out. No point wasting my time with trolls.
For everyone else reading this: Only Biden and Trump can win this race. If you vote for anyone else other than Biden, you’re screwed. But I’m sure all the reasonable people already know that.
I’m not changing the subject. It’s an integral part of the subject.
You’re only out because you know you don’t have an answer.
You’re willingly voting for a genocide enabler because you think he is the only one who can stop Trump.
But the math shows that he is unable to win BECAUSE of the genocide support.
I ask again, but I know you’re too much of a coward to answer, How does Biden win without Michigan?
How does Biden win Michigan without support from the Muslim population?
EDIT: disagreeing with you with a sincerely held belief doesn’t make me a troll. It just means you’ve lived in a bubble where people don’t disagree with you.
The question and answer are irrelevant. Even if he can’t win Michigan, he’s still the only one with a chance to win. So you either help him win or you let trump win. There’s no alternative. It’s the truth of the situation, fucked up as it may be.
And just to answer your question anyway. When push comes to shove, Biden is the better choice for everyone that’s not a cis white male. That includes Muslim. You really think they’d rather vote for that racist fuck than for Biden? Guess we’ll see.
No, they just won’t vote.
voting for any candidate who isn’t trump is a vote against trump.
Can you provide numbers to back the assertion that it will be impossible for Biden to win Michigan?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-shows-biden-support-slumping-michigan-muslims-rcna123732
It’s not a hard thing to found, in site of your spend some time with the obvious keywords you’ll find the actual States. I’m busy IRL for the rest of the day.