Updated template. Had no idea on who the knucklehead from the original template was.
Wouldn’t trying to change your mind basically become a self fulfilling prophecy.
Stop using the Steven Crowder meme already. The guy is total trash.
Just as OP.
OP does not use said meme
this guy links to it
Smh.SMH.
(Or possibly OP edited away from that meme and this guy leaves the link. I’m a day late, take your pick. )
Downvote cause of Crowder
This is excellent
Its not mine… I found it somewhere and saved it. and thank you
We did it, Lemmy!
I honestly don’t get the parallel here… They both annoy you when they talk about their respective “thing”?
But what does an Arch using vegan who does cross fit talk about first?
That they’re going to Coachella.
Their microbrew.
communism
Arch users know they picked one of the least usable distros with no upsides, so they have to constantly try to convince everyone else how much better it supposedly is. Classic post-purchase rationalisation, only the currency is the sanity of the user.
I switched from arch to opensuse tumbleweed, and even though I really like opensuse, arch was so much simpler to maintain, pacman is so much better than zypper. I disliked arch until I gave it a real try, but even though I’ve moved on for now on my main computer, arch is stil a really good distribution if you know how to set it up
You might want to have a look at endeavouros if you consider coming back. It does a lot of the heavy lifting for you. I’ve got arch, manjaro, antergos in my background as far as arch-based distros I’ve tried over the years, and have not had major problems with any of them, but endeavouros is an easy install with some conservative defaults. I had only a couple things to add on afterward to get it just how I wanted, you have a fair bit of control at install time, and once installed it’s just like maintaining an arch system.
No I have no trouble using arch and I still use it on my laptop, I just like opensuse because it’s fun so I use that on my main computer now
No worries. For me, the the fun of installing wore off after a couple times, so I have stuck with derivatives in recent years, but I get it. :)
Theres no real reason to manually install arch anymore though, archinstall script is easy, and works well. Yea you don’t get a fancy GUI, but there are plenty of options to choose at install time.
Classic post-purchase rationalisation
Except it’s completely different starting with you not having to spend a penny lmao
The upside is it’s a rolling release and very convenient btw.
The 2 best features that I love and cannot live without anymore are having a rolling release that doesn’t break every single time I try to do a distro upgrade, and the AUR. I use Arch btw.
Preach. (Though I haven’t used pure Arch in a long time.)
Rolling distros have been all I’ve run for at least the past 6 or 7 years, and I essentially never do a fresh install anymore unless I get new hardware. It’s a lovely, low maintenance place to be, and I’ve always got fresh versions of all the software I use.
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd. Its my oldest install. I run almost everything except suse as a systems admin.
As a way to run Linux, I find arch one of the nicest. Rolling release, unmodified packages direct from the dev, unopinionated systems management, arch build system for any packages you want to compile, arch Linux archive that can be used for snapshotting or locking your rolling release, and AUR.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I have a range of issues and annoyances with most major OS, ranging from i cant use this to i wish this worked. Windows, MacOS, Ubuntu/deb flavors, redhat/fedora flavors, openwrt, alpine and other busybox flavors, iOS, Android, Graphine. All have things that mostly work but I’m always working around something.
And finding accurate documentation for issues on distros that have different configuration release to release is a pain, deb, Ubuntu and redhat flavors are especially egregious. I don’t really care how to do this on RH6 or Ubuntu 11, lol, I want docs for the current version.
It’s a completely different way to manage and build an OS that no one else is really doing. I find team ‘I use arch btw’ to be extremely annoying but at the end of the day, the arch tooling for building a Linux ypunlike to use means that people are naturally going to want to tell you they built something they find enjoyable to use. That’s not really something a lot of people say about most OSs.
I wanted to try to find a way to say this in reply to some of the other comments, but I wasn’t sure I could communicate it effectively without just sounding like I was living up to the meme. You did a better job than I would have. :)
I have a roughly 13 year old install that I’ve moved through the transition to /usr/ and from sysv to systemd.
Whew! I’m aware of both those transitions, and was an arch user during one of them, but that’s super impressive. My oldest install is from 2020, endeavouros on a headless media server in my basement. Not even close!
Yeah, I that nk a lot of people ‘get it’ but can’t quite explain it. So they tell you they use arch and they they are excited about it.
I’m a pro, I’ve used basically every type of Linuxevwr made. Ive built and run linux from wcratch multiole times, as a lewrning experience, a teaching experience and even protypes for production systrms. I understand the packaging philosophies, I understand the opinionated administration decisions. I’m subscribed to most major distro mailing lists and i understand the political motivations that drive various teams to the different technical decisions.
Arch isn’t for everyone. And I’m totally fine with that. But it is perfect for people who want to build something with well crafted and unopinionated tooling. Of everyone ‘got’ arch they’d be failing at what they ate trying to do.
What can I say? Everytime I get an update I get a little spike in dopamine. Arch is perfect for that
I also get a little spike in dopamine every time I don’t hurt an animal. That’s why I’m vegan too 😎 don’t even get me started on the “b12-less buzz” 😏
Sadly, those updates have diminishing returns for me. “Oh, yet another kernel update. Time to reboot again.”
“honey time for a kernel update and reboot”
“yes dear”
b12-less buzz
I just take a B complex vitamin each morning.
Yeah but then you miss out on the buzz (/s, referring to one of the symptoms of b12 deficiency “paresthesia in hands and feet” https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms#pins-and-needles)
Guess I’m missing out!
vegan btw
I’m a vegan arch user. Not gluten-free. That’s for gentoo.
Stop using the Chowderhead template.
Stop slandering my culinary heritage by associating it with famed wife beater Steven Crowder. We’ve suffered enough already, we has to grow up in Boston - and, true story, I once nearly got reported to HR because of a D&D game involving Hooked Horrors.
Glad I use Nobara 😜
I thought those were the Nix/Guix users?
And this is why i am on the raw meat diet and use temple os
Virgin edit
I use Fedora btw
tips Fedora
Whenever anyone brings this up, I imagine a vegan sitting at a table with their new friends, refusing to eat any chicken wings, but also not saying why… And then everyone harassing them with a million questions like, “do you not like hot sauce? We can get barbecue”, “are you on a diet?”, “are you allergic?”, etc, etc. Finally, after half an hour of this, they lose it and just as there’s a lull in the music, they scream out, “look, I’m a vegan! I don’t fucking eat meat! Fuck off!”
The whole bar goes quiet, staring, then one of the people at the table reaches for a wing, looks at the vegan, and says, “dude, chill, we get it, you don’t eat meat, blah blah blah. You don’t have to talk about it every 5 minutes! Here’s some bread and butter.”
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I have never once been accosted by or have accosted vegans on their dietary preference
Congratulations, I wasn’t talking about you specifically because I don’t know you specifically.
Your imagination is perpetuating the myth of the vast majority of people caring about an individual’s dietary preferences.
No, I’m reversing the myth OP was perpetuating that vegans talk about being vegans constantly. There is no myth that “the vast majority of people care about an individual’s dietary preferences.” I’m using hyperbole to demonstrate what would happen if in a hypothetical situation where a vegan didn’t mention that they were vegan to explain why they weren’t eating meat. The hyperbole comes from the non-vegans not understanding why someone would not eat meat, forcing the vegan to announce themselves. Suddenly, the vegan, despite all their efforts not to, has perpetuated the myth that vegans constantly talk about vegans. In the hyperbolic situation - being used to demonstrate the inanity of the vegans-always-talk-about-being-vegans myth - the non-vegans represent people who perpetrate that myth.
Thankfully, that’s not you. Sorry if you felt attacked.
“You’re vegan? No sweat! How about a bean and cheese burrito?”
🫠
Literally no one will ask you a million questions about arch
That’s why vegan != arch user. If you are vegan, you can not avoid the topic. Arch user could avoid the topic.
Uhhh… I mean no. I think the equivalency is both groups love to talk about something that Makes them feel superior- but actually just annoys everyone around them
Both groups are stereotyped as that, and neither group is actually like that
Still never met a vegan who loves to talk about their dietary choices. Have met a bunch of omnivores who love to harass vegetarians and vegans once they find out someone eats differently than they do.
Every vegan that irritated me constantly brought it up…the folks who just did their thing got me curious as to why and educated me on some delicious food despite me not being vegan/vegetarian.
I will say I think Indian food is the best vegetarian food to the point that it’s just good, you’re not even worried about meat.
Yep, I don’t eat meat and I don’t recall the last time I actually told someone that unprompted in real life
I have to say, I am yet to encounter a cliche vegan.
Not a single vegan I’ve ever met brought up the topic, unless there was a reason for it. Like the scenario you described.
But I’ve met a whole lot of bros who made fun of vegans for existing and being annoying.
I’ve ran into a few online, but even that’s rare. Agreed that people ranting against this stereotype are far more common than the actual stereotype.
Kinda proving the point tho. The joke was more on Arch users and everyone in here is writing paragraphs defending Gluten Free/Vegan. But, like the meme is pointing out, you just gotta talk about it! 😂
“Haha vegans never stop talking about themselves!”
Hey can you stop making fun of us?
“Haha look at this, yet another vegan who can’t shut up!”
It’s more like “Hey, don’t Arch users totally fit this stereotype?”, but again, look how defensive you get. It’s hilarious that you don’t see the irony. The joke literally starts with “Arch users…”, but you zero in on the vegan part. You didn’t even need to comment. You could’ve just downvoted and moved on.
I really hope you can appreciate the irony. Humor is good for the soul, buddy.
I don’t use arch, and I’m not vegan, I’m just tired of played out innaccurate “jokes”
Ever hear a completely accurate and factual joke? They’re boring. Just admit you don’t like the joke and move on. You don’t need to further the very stereotype you hate so much.
That’s the irony part that you’re just not getting.
I’m furthering the stereotype by not being part of the group being stereotyped?
I’ve met quite a few vegans and far as I know none of them avoid gluten. I also know someone with celiac disease, who would never even contemplate going vegan when he already has so many dietary restrictions to put up with.
They’re not absolutely mutually exclusive groups, but pretty close to it I think. Slackware users who install everything through Snap are the real gluten-free vegans of the linux world.
Hail Seitan! --> many vegans (including myself) swear on pure gluten :D
And yes, I also know people who also cannot be vegan because of all their dietary restrictions.
I guess the similarity of arch users and vegans lies in the fact that both groups are very much outside the norm. So you often have to distance yourself from the assumed default (windows/apple computer, omnivore diet). And just talking with other people, it comes up often by itself. If someone asks me to fix their windows PC, I have to tell them that I haven’t really used windows for nearly a decade now. And if someone invites me over or to a restaurant, I have to tell them that I’m vegan. But people who are inside the norm often don’t deal very well with outsiders, so they have to invent tropes like the annoying vegan. What is actually annoying them is their own double standard they have to live with (torturing/killing animals and having a large ecological impact vs wanting to be a good human being).
But obviously there are also some people who use arch or are vegan and do it to provoke a reaction, to feel special and morally superior.
Isn’t this like complaining about what type of toilet paper somebody uses? Who gives a shit?
Those who want to spread the good news about cold water spraying on your dirty rosebud would give a shit. At least they would like to tell you about the life changing bidet.
You clearly used one of those adapters for a regular toilet. If you do it right, and get the new plumbing installed and an actual bidet, you can have confortable temperature water spraying on your dirty rosebud.
Also no, I don’t own one… yet. I’ve just looked into it.
