• The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Funny how America’s always in charge of gas prices, the stock market, and other countries when a Democrat is in charge, isn’t it?

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    9 months ago

    Bullshit.

    Israel is a nuclear-armed nation, it is as immune to large-scale ground invasion as N Korea or Pakistan. They do not need our thousand pound bombs, nor our military alliance. This just isn’t the 80s anymore.

    Similarly, Reagan wasn’t facing a criminal trying to take down his own justice system, relying fully on being propped up by ethno-nationalists that want Palestine, all of it, exterminated, just to maintain his own position.

    We could probably stop them, if we threatened them with severe economic sanctions. Cutting off the weapons would simply make Netanyahu use even more indiscriminate tactics though, like starving them all, or firebombing the whole place. He can’t accept a permanent cease fire though, because one would cost him, him personally, everything he has left.

    That’s the problem with strongmen. They don’t actually give a fuck about people, just themselves. And they’d rather be an evil tyrant than a loser.

    Probably can’t fix that with a phone call, don’t you think?

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      9 months ago

      Also, Netanyahu has been planning this for years. It’s exactly why he helped Hamas get control of Gaza in the first place. He has had a plan to wipe out Palestine for a long time now and he’s finally been able to implement it.

  • Drusas@kbin.social
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    No, he couldn’t. Netanyahu is in charge and he’s been looking forward to this for ages. He is not in America’s (much less Biden’s) pocket. He has his own powerful military at his beck and call.

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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    What was supposed to have been a limited incursion into southern Lebanon by the Israeli military over the summer, under the leadership of Ariel Sharon, then defense minister (remember him?

    Between June and August, the Israelis cut off food, water and power to the Lebanese capital in a brutal attempt to destroy the PLO, whose fighters were holed up inside a tunnel network below Beirut.

    That same day, a horrified Ronald Reagan placed a phone call to Menachem Begin, then Israeli prime minister, to “express his outrage” and condemn the “needless destruction and bloodshed”.

    It is, to quote the media critic Adam Johnson, a “feigned powerlessness” that has been buttressed, he notes, by a series of “self-serving leaks” from the Biden White House that insist the president “may or not be kind of annoyed over” Israel’s actions.

    In late October 2023, Israeli lawmakers challenged Yoav Gallant, the defense minister, over the decision to allow (a little) humanitarian aid into Gaza, before the release of any hostages.

    Yet he now possesses the power, unique among the 8 billion people who live on this planet, to pick up the phone, dial a number beginning +972, and halt the daily killing of hundreds of wives and children.


    The original article contains 1,374 words, the summary contains 204 words. Saved 85%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Noooo you must vote for Genocide Joe!

    Keep voting for the Genocide guy!!! Else the other Genocide guy is going to win!!!

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      If Trump gets elected, my queer daughter could very well be part of a domestic genocide. For my daughter’s sake, and the sake of all other queer people in America, Trump cannot be allowed back into office.

      So please tell me who I should vote for to keep my daughter safe.

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        9 months ago

        Your queer daughter is lucky to have a parent like you who takes voting so seriously (and I genuinely mean that).

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          Thank you. She is the most important thing in my life and I will do anything I can to keep her from harm. And- I know a lot of people make this claim- if Trump wins, we are moving to Europe. I recently found out, based on research my brother and I have been doing, that I’m eligible for German citizenship (my Grandfather was German but renounced his citizenship and became British in 1936. However, my father was born in 1931, making him a German citizen and me a German citizen and my daughter a German citizen) and I’m working on getting us German passports if we have to. We’re also looking up places to live where most people speak English so we can learn the local language while we’re there rather than have to know it before we go. The closer we get to the election, the more I’m going to do to make sure we get the fuck out of here before January 20, 2025 if Trump wins. I will not risk her being put in a “conversion therapy” camp or whatever the fuck they want to do to queer people.

      • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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        And while Republicans are creating the environment that threatens your daughter, Democrats have done jack shit to counteract it. Republicans targeting trans didnt start overnight, it’s been going on for years, so Dems have had years to protect them, yet here we are. Their inaction allows Republican action.

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          Interesting how you didn’t respond to the final sentence of my very short post even though it was separate from the other two setences.

          Maybe you missed it. I’ll post it again:

          So please tell me who I should vote for to keep my daughter safe.

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            The choice is yours but neither Biden nor Trump will keep her safe. As someone that’s been out since Reagan the quality nor safety of my life has been safe regardless which shade of fascism runs the government.

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              The choice is yours

              I know the choice is mine. That’s how elections work.

              but neither Biden nor Trump will keep her safe.

              Okay, then who will? Because that was my question. Tell me who and I’ll vote for them.

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        And if Biden gets elected then you can be sure that America will shift even further right in the future.

        And then your daughter will actually get genocided.

        First they came for the Palestinians.

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          Wait… are you actually claiming that it’s Biden and not Trump who’s the massive homophobic bigot?

          You must be insane.

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              Again, please tell me who I should vote for to keep my daughter safe.

              Because your answer so far seems to be ‘not Biden.’ That means you think Trump does not already have a record of oppressing queer people (he does)- therefore vote for Trump, that Biden’s record is worse (please show evidence of this)- therefore vote for Trump, or that they’re both equally bad in that regard and so I should vote for the person who has a chance of defeating both of them.

              So is it that I should vote for Trump or is it that there is a third option that you refuse to name?

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                Cornel West, Jill Stein or any other third party

                Nothing is going to happen in 2024 to your daughter. Trump is going to screw over some Mexicans and Arabs like he did in 2016 and that’s it.

                America needs to move way further to the right until Adolf Hitler2 with Nazi tattoos shows up before you see domestic Genocide.

                And that will happen if the current cycle of “picking the lesser evil” continues. Because America will keep shifting to the right.

                Either you break the cycle or eventually you will actually reach the Genocide point. If the Democrats learn that they can be Republicans and win elections, they will keep being republicans.

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                  Cornell West, Jill Stein or any other third party

                  Please present evidence any of them have a chance of winning.

                  Nothing is going to happen in 2024 to your daughter.

                  You’re right. Because Trump gets sworn in January 20th, 2025 if he wins. And then he has a good chance of putting my daughter in a camp.

                  But you don’t care about queer people.

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        They both have the same amount of letters in their last name, both have kids that struggle with substance abuse, both don’t want to retire. What’s the difference?

        /S if it wasn’t obvious

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          Biden does want to retire. He’s said he’d only run again if Trump did, so here we all are.

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            He also said there are hundreds of qualified people to run against Trump, so here we all are. Democrats are not serious about winning, if they were they would have primaried Biden

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              The fact that Biden is the main candidate is proof that they are serious about winning. Incumbents rarely lose.

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                And every incumbent that’s polled this low in their third year has lost. No incumbent has ever polled this low.

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          Just say you can’t honestly answer their question, instead of dishonestly trying to create a distraction by posing irrelevant questions.