oh thank god, you have no idea how long I’ve been waiting to know who Barbara Bush is endorsing
I don’t think you’re the target audience of Barbara Bush or People magazine
For a younger, moderately conservative woman who sees Trump for who he is, this sort of endorsement can give them cover to vote for a Democrat
I don’t think anyone on Lemmy is the target audience.
Wouldn’t this also make her the first of the Bush family to endorse Harris?
Considering Bush Jr is huge friends with the Obamas, this isn’t surprising. Corporate America and its dynastical representatives stick together. Does any Bush endorse Trump?
Even Cheney endorses Kamala, this should be a huge warning sign to any leftists.
Obama was a dynasty? I must’ve missed those other Obama elections.
riverSpirit is a time traveler and forgot that Michelle wasn’t elected yet
That, or he’s an idiot.
The Bushes?
Figured that was pretty obvious for anyone to work out.
You (accidentally?) referred to both Bush and Obama as dynastic representatives in the post above.
Leftists will already know that the democratic party leadership are conservative to vaguely center at best, hardly anything new
True but many Libs think of themselves as leftists, more directed at them.
It’s about getting out the vote.
Why y’all hating on this woman cause of who her dad is?
All hands on deck. All who denounce nazis are on the team. Those who refuse their help are not.
We’ll see where we’re at after you all vote so that kamala wins.
I’m at least one anti Trump vote in Florida…(Harris and none of the federalist judges, ) I’m trying to turn the tide
Thank you for your efforts. I’m in GA and proudly voted for Harris. Doing my part as well, one week will tell if it made any difference.
One in Ohio. (And a pro Sherrod brown vote as well). I want my state to swing instead of my body
And Texas here. Trump does not represent all of us
all hands on deck for a pro-fracking genocider ?
vote 3rd party specially if you are in deep blue or a deep red state. both trump and harris are scamming psychopath. don’t let them get away with murdering thousands of children.
this election must depict that we had enough of bullshit.
I expect if her positions were completely reversed, you’d complain about those too.
an absurd comment to prove how indefensible this farce is.
she hasn’t even given a hint of reversing her position, only demeaned it with moronic statements like this
you should introspect your own beliefs system rather than giving baseless take on others.
This US election is not about who wins, but who doesn’t win. Project 2025 is an attack on democracy and fair elections as a whole. Want to argue about actual political issues? Vote blue. Want to fight for fundamental rights the next 4 years? Vote red, 3rd party or just don’t vote.
Using a 3rd party vote to protest the system is saying you’re choosing between equal evils. Saying a convinced fellon, insurrectionist and known fascist is an equal evil as a person with actual reasonability and literally zero negative qualifications just proves you have the moral compass of a sand dune.
Project 2025 will be implemented regardless of who is president fyi. The court system is captured by fascists and the executive branch can’t stop it. Vote for Kamala if it makes you feel good tho
we don’t have a democracy. majority of Americans and almost entirety of dnc voters are against genocide in gaza and fracking. yet harris has been very much in support. forget support she has been actively participating for a year and removing anti-israel speakers from her rallies.
after obama, we became “one party two candidates” system where they run gaslighting campaign every four years and do what lobbyists tell them to do.
and wtf on bringing moral compass on not wanting to vote for a genocider who has only spit on poor people in her entire public service. question her and the dnc for choosing corruption and dead children over their voters and fight against facism. they are the one who don’t care about getting trump elected because their gravy train will keep running. infact pelosi will have to pay lower taxes on all that insider trading she has been doing for decades.
You want to call something a farce? Thinking the US has more than two parties is a farce. We can hate on it all we want but the fact is that your 3rd party vote will only help the GOP.
Political differences is how elections should be fought, this one is about much more than that.
3rd party is not farce. if your self-respect allows you to vote for them then good for you. mine doesn’t.
I mean, Trump is openly promising to wreck American democracy and use the military against protestors on American soil at this point. There’s a lot of problems with Harris, sure, but to say they’re the same is to admit your own ignorance.
they are not same but dnc has become evil enough for it to not matter. you can check the other comment thread on why a vote for dnc is not a vote for democracy.
You named two issues. Granted, they are big issues, but they aren’t as big as Trump openly promising to turn America into a fascist state.
Senator Sanders has some wise words about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY
It’s a lemmy.ml account, ignore this pro-Ruski troll
this 2016 excuse that only drove people away from dnc, so i am ok with it. the gall to bring that up when they used every party resource and media to sabotage bernie.
also russia would be very happy with dnc given they have
- diverted majority of aid to israel so that they can flatten every home in gaza and kill hundreds of civilians everyday
- polarized the world against us
- ensured for next few decades that we will be spit on every time we use words like warcrime or human rights in a sentence.
if it was under trump, only he would have been blamed, but thanks to biden now the entire nation is complicit.
and lemmy.ml was the top result in kagi but this bigotry makes no sense anyway.
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Before people bash her because of her dad:
She is doing this
She spoke out as pro-gay marriage
She also headlined a Planned Parenthood fundraiser in Texas.
She seems to keep her politics quiet, however these public displays land her on the right side of things. I don’t know her and don’t care one way or the other what side she’s on, I just want to be sure she’s getting a fair assessment without her dad’s shadow hanging over her.
I agree, makes no sense to hold someone accountable for other people’s views and actions, if she’s willing to stand up for her own views that’s all it takes.
I’d argue that what she’s doing is even more admirable, simply because it’s super fucking easy to fall into the “my parents voted this way so I do too” mindset. Pretty much every small town in America is full of people who were steeped in hate while growing up, have never known anything else, and fully plan on continuing the family tradition when they have kids of their own. It would be easy for her to just keep her head down and coast along on her father’s coattails. But she has actively refused to do so.
Shit! She’s 42?!? Who hit >> on life? Fuck I’m old.
If Kamala doesn’t get the Dubya endorsement I am not voting for her. I only listen to the worst of war criminals for political guidance.
Kissinger is dead; will you accept Cheney?
The equivalent of “Is Pepsi ok?” in American politics
Who is this for? They’re acting like getting endorsements from the families of Bush and Cheney is like getting an endorsement from Ronald Regan, but Bush and Cheney were not popular at the end of their administration; they started two interminable wars and ended with the largest recession in recent history. Trump cut his teeth in 2016 by trashing George Bush and curb-stomping his brother in the primary. Conservatives who are still open to Trump probably aren’t huge fans of the Bush family! All this is doing is demoralizing the progressive base and showing conservatives that the kind of Republicans they rejected in 2016 support Harris.
This stuff does get traction with the late election cycle undecided voters. Obligatory undecided voter sketch from SNL.
So this aged great, huh?
Fucking cowards are waiting until enough votes are cast in early voting.
What do you mean?
They’ll face the same consequences whether they step up now, or before early voting.
Presumably, they think early voters are not undecided, and that this is the right timing to have the best impact.
Announcing just a week or two out gives them potential plausible deniability after the fact, less prominence in crowded news cycles now and less repeated points of exposure as a potential surrogate at events or in press. Basically, after the fact if trump wins, they can say it was an isolated, momentary lapse instead of deep commit and then smooth further with typical, “Realize I just felt threatened/pressured by those woke marxists CRTs and f da libz, trump 4 liffffz!” (If you need an example, go see every January 6 traitor crying in court, saying they should not have followed trump’s bullshit and their actions we’re reprehensible prior to sentencing… then fast forward to when they are released and they are at a Halloween party the next week dressed as Paul Pelosi with a hammer in their skull, showing off their new “stop the steal” tattoo and doing Lee Greenwood karaoke while standing in front of a “make America swastika again” flag)
And all will fairly easily be forgiven on that side, as they always need warm bodies regardless of any morality or integrity. And on the otherside if Harris wins, they get to sleep at night saying “I helped” without really having done or risked anything in response to a prior life of being actively driving or at leeway complicity with the root cause of the problem.
Two things can be true, they can still owe a lifetime of penance for their atrocious past actions (active or passive participation) AND they can start operating on the side of good for the rest of their lives to hopefully, eventually do more good than harm.
What “atrocious past actions” is she responsible for? She’s not even a republican.
Nonsense.
You said something stupid. Now you’re trying to back it up to avoid admitting it was a poorly considered brain fart. This is the worst part of social and frankly, cowardly. In an anonymous medium like lemmy no one cares if you’re right.
It’s not cowardly to wait until the moment you’ll have the best impact to make a statement like this.
She would’ve contacted the Harris campaign early on offering to endourse, and they’ve orchestrated and scheduled this release amongst everything else.
Better now than never.
In a way, but see above. Both can be true
Why are you hating on her? Cause you don’t like her dad? That’s fucked up. Stop sowing Division within the left with this “nobody is good enough for my side” bullshit
“Her dad” is a fucking war criminal who has been whitewashed into goofy, doofy grandpa with time, but who was the driver of a lot of SERIOUS damage inflicted on the US and the broader world. So a bit to start, sure, there’s a layer of gratitude for the action in this desperate moment, but overall fuck her and “her dad” ( like he’s just since dude, okay tool - cool story) Plain truth is I haven’t seen her ever directly acknowledge the fact that her father is trash and that’s how history should always remember him - short of that, she’s lacking a good start to any kind of meaningful apology. Also their family money, as most family money does, has some very fucked up roots.
To restate a bit for context, announcing just a week or two out gives them potential plausible deniability after the fact, less prominence in crowded news cycles now and less repeated points of exposure as a potential surrogate at events or in press. Basically, after the fact if trump wins, they can say it was an isolated, momentary lapse instead of deep commit and then smooth further with typical, “Realize I just felt threatened/pressured by those woke marxists CRTs and f da libz, trump 4 liffffz!” (If you need an example, go see every January 6 traitor crying in court, saying they should not have followed trump’s bullshit and their actions we’re reprehensible prior to sentencing… then fast forward to when they are released and they are at a Halloween party the next week dressed as Paul Pelosi with a hammer in their skull, showing off their new “stop the steal” tattoo and doing Lee Greenwood karaoke while standing in front of a “make America swastika again” flag)
And all will fairly easily be forgiven on that side, as they always need warm bodies regardless of any morality or integrity. And on the otherside if Harris wins, they get to sleep at night saying “I helped” without really having done or risked anything in response to a prior life of being actively driving or at leeway complicity with the root cause of the problem.
Two things can be true at once, she can still owe a lifetime of penance for her/her family’s atrocious past actions (active or passive participation) AND they can start operating on the side of good for the rest of their lives to hopefully, eventually do more good than harm.
So respectfully, fuck you and your revisionist history, “no time to convict Nixon, the nation needs to heal” apologist bullshit.
I’m sure your dad is a piece of shit too but I don’t know why I would hold that personally against you, that’s just insane.
Kamala all excited about support from republicans.
It’s creepy.
The war criminal dick Cheney also supports Kamala.
I don’t think the democrat candidate embracing republicans is the look y’all blue maga folks think it is.
Try to figure out what phrase you used that outed you as an idiot.
Ooh, you really got me there with your intellectual prowess and debating skills.
Turns out you were the idiot and this guy was right. Appealing to the right lost Kamala this election 😞
Assuming “Blue maga” is a thing makes him a jackass.
And you came back a week later to comment you fucking dork.
I like letting people know when they were really fucking wrong. I find the reactions funny 😘
Talking about Blue Maga is idiocy, was then, still is; bye
I agree stranger. Appealing to the right doesn’t seem like the smart way to win this election but I hope I’m wrong.
I’m with you there.
But I don’t see how Kamala embracing republican politicians with poll numbers lower than even Biden is going to get her votes.
Maybe works for people who only watch cable tv?
They were going to vote for Kamala either way.
