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Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago

Trump Backs Israel Bombarding Gaza: 'Gotta Finish the Problem'

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Trump Backs Israel Bombarding Gaza: 'Gotta Finish the Problem'

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Rapidcreek@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 year ago
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Donald Trump declared his support for Israel's ongoing siege on Gaza and attacked immigrants in a Fox News interview.
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    Its at least in part Russian propaganda. They don’t want people to vote for Trump, they do want democratic voters to not vote at all

    you’re making this up

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      you’re making this up

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russias-alleged-election-meddling-tactics-is-2024-already-compromised/ar-BB1iXPOs

      https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-intelligence-report-alleging-russia-election-interference-shared-with-100-2023-10-20/

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression

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        none of your links support a claim that russia is using the conflict in israel to favor one candidate or another.

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          What many of us imagine is that it’s bad when either nation does this.

          Yes, it is hypocritical for most US politicians to criticize Russia’s interference in US elections, but it’s not incorrect.

          It certainly isn’t wrongthink for those of us who have little influence on what alphabet agencies do to complain about it happening just because it’s happening elsewhere, too.

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              That’s a non sequitur at best.

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                suck my balls

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                  Another non sequitur, and in any case not what I said (nor implied, unless you read my reply in bad faith).

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          Imagine banning people from your stonercringe community because they said you shouldn’t drive high

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        no one is threatening to vote for Trump because of biden’s genocidal proclivities. since nobody’s doing that, none of them can be Russian agents. you made this up.

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          Since reading is hard:

          It’s at least in part Russian propaganda. They don’t want people to vote for Trump, they do want democratic voters to not vote at all, which will help Trump get elected.

          Way to ignore the entire point of the person you responded to.

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            Way to ignore the entire point of the person you responded to.

            i’m not ignoring it. i’m challenging it.

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              Sorry, I wasn’t aware that you were “challenging it” by ignoring the actual point and making up something else to respond to. My mistake, I’ll have to learn alternative definitions for words.

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                Sorry, I wasn’t aware that you were “challenging it” by ignoring the actual poin

                the actual point is that they claimed there is a russian campaign to help trump’s performance in november on the basis of biden’s support for genocide. there is no evidence for this.

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                  Just like there was no evidence during the 2016 or 2020 campaigns, but surely they’ve changed this election. If only there were any evidence of it happening this round, I’m sure you’d change your mind.

                  I mean, could you imagine if they had tried to drum up charges against the president’s family by getting an asset to be believed as a credible witness in a case against his family? Or if they were putting out deep fakes to make people think Biden said something he never did?

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                    Just like there was no evidence during the 2016 or 2020 campaigns, but surely they’ve changed this election

                    this is innuendo. there is a specific claim being made about people who are objecting to joe’s genocide, and that claim simply isn’t supported by any evidence. your innuendo is slander.

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                    could you imagine if they had tried to drum up charges against the president’s family by getting an asset to be believed as a credible witness in a case against his family? Or if they were putting out deep fakes to make people think Biden said something he never did?

                    that’s not the claim that’s being made or to which i’m objecting. i’m objecting to the characterization of leftists as russian propagandists.

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