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      Then whinging about messaging is hilarious to me. It’s not like they have ever been good at it it’s just their portion of the electorate has been eating lead paint and accepts basically anything.

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      European here: we did not ask for your help, we do not particularly want you to bomb the houthis (or anyone in the Middle East for that matter).

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          Easiest way to dothat is stop supporting Israel’s genocide in Palestine. Seems like all upsides to me

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            Are you seriously naive enough to think the Houthis will lay down their arms if Israel stops attacking Palestine? The Yemeni civil war was happening before Israel invaded Gaza.

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              Yes actually, they didn’t attack the ships during the ceasefire in Gaza.

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                And? They supported the ceasefire. Neat. They’re still not going to forget their initial grievances. And Iran and Saud aren’t suddenly decide to be all friendly.

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                  Dude seriously. For the last few weeks, every time I see your username pop up I am baffled – baffled I say, you’re not an @lemmy.ml troll. I’d be happy to be character reference if they need one for you to join.

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                    You sure you’re talking about me? I’m always attacking tankies. I’m probably already banned from .ml

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              People have decided the issue is about which team you pick. Apparently it’s a sport where “your team” is good and the other guys are bad.

              Who needs nuance when you can just rail against your perceived enemies (anyone who disagrees with you even slightly).

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                Who needs nuance when apparently an entire residential building counts as acceptable losses (don’t even think about damaging daddy’s oil tho)

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                  Yeah, reporting has mostly been about the leak - and I understand why. American lives > anything else in American politics and the OPSEC is what puts American lives at risk.

                  But if I understand this “operation” correctly - a rocket specialist for the Houthis who was instrumental in the attacks on Suez Canal had a girlfriend in that building. So, they dropped the building on him. 53 innocents dead to kill one terrorist? This is acceptable losses in modern American warfighting?

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          I can think of a better way to get the Houthis to stop attacking ships in the Suez

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            Give Israel to Iran?

            I do think the US in particular should have pulled the leash on Netanyahu. Sure felt like they had a different understanding of who has the power in that relationship. (Thanks, AIPAC.)

            However, regardless of the US stance, I think s genocide happens there no matter what. Even so, slowly and constantly over 30 years is better than devastation over 30 months.

            It’s not a black and white situation.

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              Even so, slowly and constantly (committing genocide) over 30 years is better than devastation over 30 months.

              I don’t even have the words for how insanely fucked up this mindset is.

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          This bombing campaign won’t prevent missile attacks on shipping. If anything, it will further motivate ships to avoid the area.

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          We would indeed prefer shipping to Suez. That’s why we deploy navy ships to the Red Sea. Doesn’t mean that we asked for this particular strike on Jemen (which as many already pointed out is unlikely to affect piracy much). You can’t say you do something for Europe when to my knowledge no European nation asked for this “aide”.

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      Do you have the text of the ‘did not go unnoticed’ article, as it is paywalled for me

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      Have European leaders been living under a rock? The U.S. leaders have been pretty clear about Europeans countries freeloading and have told them to their faces repeatedly.