Private property? Freedom of speech? Freedom to breed? Freedom of thought?..

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
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    8 hours ago

    Private property. Remove that and many problems will solve themselves real quick, though that will also cause a large number of human deaths before things stabilize

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    10 hours ago

    Those are all things that can make a better society. Why do they need to be given up?

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    18 hours ago

    We dont need to give up anything we just need change. Regulations are what keeps capitalism from killing us all and this planet. We have allowed deregulation to put us in this spot and its going to get worst.

  • WhatSay@slrpnk.net
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    15 hours ago

    I would don the black hood and swing the ax

    Tis messy work, but it’s gotta be done

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      20 hours ago

      Provided they don’t touch freedom to not breed, and we don’t put racist ducks in charge, I think that works be the easiest for me to bear.

      But I don’t want kids, so it’s not much of a sacrifice.

    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      For me that would depend on whether it’s just my personal freedom to do so or all of humanity’s. I didn’t come to the hypothetical thought experiment question thread to not kill 8 billion fucking people.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    The landlords.

    There are a lot of them so it would be exhausting work to behead them all myself but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make

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    2 days ago

    Private property isn’t a sacrifice. I don’t own any.

    There’s a difference between personal property and private property. Private property is a mall, is a factory, is machinery at your workplace. Personal property is your toothbrush, your Playstation, your Television, your blender, your set of German knives, your computer, your books, etc.

    Freedom of speech has never existed. The illusion of it has been allowed to be stronger or weaker in various places at various times, if your speech is no threat it’s often allowed, it’s when it’s a threat that suddenly the freedom vanishes and hides behind excuses like national security or illegal ideologies, etc.

    I question how you would get rid of freedom of thought without some sort of hellish brain implants being made mandatory so it’s an odd thing to mention.

    I’d be willing to sacrifice an awful lot of fascists, reactionaries, and an awful lot of enabling liberals. I’d be willing to sacrifice bourgeoisie. The expropriation of their private property is not a sacrifice but a necessity for things being held in common trust for the people.

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    How much better of a world? I’d be happy with half of what I have if it meant literally everyone else in the world could have that much, certainly. Move 4 more people into the house and give up half the money, half the clothes, my car, of course I would do that if it brought the same level of wealth to every single person, it would be not great at first but wow can you imagine how fast it would get better, if nobody was terribly poor? I’d bet that by the time I was old we’d personally be better off than before the split.

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    2 days ago

    Convenience.
    Sadly it is something far fewer people are willing to give up than any of the above.

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      2 days ago

      It really depends on the kind of convenience.

      Some conveniences are easier to give up, especially if giving them up will benefit others.

      • a new sad me@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Example: if we are willing to walk around with smartphones that are 5mm thicker and 50g heavier, and a bit less slick in design, we can fix them instead of buying new ones. This kind of things. And we are not even willing to give that up.

        This guy speaks about this (I’m not sure if this is the right video)

        https://youtu.be/nrv45bvP8qo

        • lattrommi@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          Who is “we”? You got a mouse in your pocket or something? I absolutely would make that sacrifice. I hate smartphones. I didn’t own one until 2020 and only ended up with it because some scumbag salesman tricked my aging mom into buying it and adding a new number on her account under contract. So she gave it to me. I wish smartphones would go away. They are as “smart” as AI is “intelligent”. I’ve gone without a car most of my life, i’ve never had netflix/instagram/amazon/twitter/etc accounts, I didn’t have internet for the first 15 years as an adult and I am ready to give these things I have now that I don’t want, which are somehow mandatory to participate in life these days. The prospect of getting rid of it all and trying my hand at hermit life or as a hobo grow stronger every day.

        • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
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          2 days ago

          I don’t know if the general population cares about phone thickness that much, but in my case I actually would hate a too thin phone.