And no one is going to do a damn thing about this because the US is not a nation of laws anymore.

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    The president has immunity while being in office, was the supreme court ruling right?

    And if this doesn’t count under the immunity, he just replaces judges and claims he lost faith in the justice system and abolishes and restructures it, just as Hitler did. He already ignored several other judge rulings.

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      Start attacking his supporters instead. Bring them up on charges for being complicit in his crimes. He may have immunity, but his enablers don’t. Make everyone scared to keep supporting him until their only choice is to vote in favor of ousting him.

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        Or, Trump will just protect them all. Like he pardoned the Jan6 rioters. He already barred judges who went after friends of his.

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        You think there will be one? Seeing how things are going now, there’s barely a democracy left. I’m expecting elections like Russia had, at best. Trump is following the footsteps of Hitler. Literally. Tariffs, attacking journalists and judges, spreading hate towards minorities, using fake news as a weapon, replacing key positions with yes-men, deporting people to concentration camps, etc. You might hope for a Democrat as president, but I think that ship has sailed man.

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    Now, watch as literally nothing at all is done about it, just like his last blatant and obvious felony and just like his next one.

    We suck.

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        I don’t see how that’s relevant, and if anything that is a very rude question of you to ask. I’d suggest you gather your couth and think before asking such inane and, frankly, very stupid and insulting questions, which my username has already answered had you bothered to read it, in the future.

        Good day.

        Edit: I apologize, I read that backwards. No, of course not, I’m just a regular human in my normal human skin keeping my sweet tasty meats contained inside my body, and I have regular non-serrated teeth that don’t grow back when I lose them attacking seals and such, just like the rest of you. Nothing to see here.

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          No it’s fine, the Internet doesn’t convey tone so you didn’t reslise I am merely a fascinated biologist. Thank you for explaining about your non serrated teeth that definitely don’t grow back Mr Man. Have a human day!

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      No thanks on the nationalist “we”. Cultspeak.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

      Frank first uses a singular personal pronoun (“I”), but then quickly corrects to the plural personal pronoun “we.” Why? Because when you’re leading a cult, you need to imply family, collectiveness, exclusivity at each moment. Frank’s consistently creates an “us versus them” scenario. Although it’s unclear who “they” are, that hardly matters to his followers. They are much too busy “looking harder” (at what?) “digging deeper” (to where?) and “mining that pure, unbridled potential (of what?)” - https://www.whatmakesgreatwriting.com/p/dont-worry-darling

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        We are a collective society, that’s an objective fact, dipshit, you don’t have the option to not be a part of a demographic, learn what context is and how to apply it.

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    So can we expect more finger wagging, indignant tweets and furrowed brows? Maybe a SLAM or two? No? Then suck it up, america!

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    So he broke a law. And what’s anyone in the US going to do about it??

    Crickets.

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    He’s not in prison for treason and espionage - it’s doubtful he’s going anywhere no matter how heinous a crime he commits.

    He’s…a…fucking…criminal. A criminal is in charge of the law. AND the national piggy bank, but that for another time.

    How many of you have criminals as friends? None. You know why? Because they’ll lie and steal from you just as fast as anyone else - that’s why. And that’s trumpski - a lying criminal con man. AND a traitor to the country that gave him everything he’s got.

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      How many of you have criminals as friends? None. You know why? Because they’ll lie and steal from you just as fast as anyone else - that’s why.

      Grow up. Most “crimes” are bullshit and most “criminals” are fine people.

      Nobody wants to be friends with Trump because he’s a fascist who attacks people both legally and illegally, although there’s no conviction/punishment when the rich/privileged commit “crimes”.

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      How many of you have criminals as friends? None. You know why? Because they’ll lie and steal from you just as fast as anyone else - that’s why.

      I know you’re making a political point, but tbh, I thought Lemmy would have a better take on criminal justice

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      Well Al Capone was brought down by the IRS, maybe this fucker will be put behind bars by the post office or something… Or maybe nothing will happen

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        Gov was after Capone though. Trump is the gov. And even though technically this isn’t true everyone either doesn’t care or isn’t brave enough to try to do anything

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    Just so you don’t have to read through the article to find out which law he broke this time: he used the presidential seal while he spoke at a private, for-profit event.

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      Oh, yeah, of EVERYTHING he’s done, this is the thing that will finally land him in prison.

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        I mean, al capone was brought down due to some tax issue. Sometimes they gotta get a really good grip on a small thread and just keep pulling

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          2 very good lawyers had Donald dead to rights on election fraud and stealing government documents, and they both gave up when they realized the law doesn’t apply to him. There is no legal thread to keep a grip on that will ever make any difference.

          Nobody seemed to care when the supreme court gave us kings again. This is what it looks like.

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          al capone was brought down due to some tax issue.

          …and a government organization with the will to do what’s right and pursue justice. Do you expect to see that from the people Republicans and Trump put in place??

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    As long as the Department of Justice continues to work exclusively at the behest of Trump, you should expect no actual justice. 86 Pam Bondi, 86 Trump. 86 the Republican party for abdicating their oaths.

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      I’m over these headlines. The Supreme Court said he has presidential immunity. The law doesn’t apply.

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        They said he has immunity for official duties. This article is about him using the presidential seal for non-official duties. I don’t think anything is going to happen still, but even the insane SC ruling doesn’t give him immunity for this.

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          The ruling outlined that official duties includes pretty much everything he does while president, unless he explicitly states it’s not in his capacity as president or for national interests, which he won’t do in court, so effectively, yes, he has complete immunity. The “official” part is just a fig leaf to give the ruling the appearance of jurisprudence.

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            KKKaroline in one of her recent briefings said that basically he’s doing this in his personal time, and is unrelated to his presidency. They can probably use that 🤷 not that they will though

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            Sure, but this is about him using the seal in a non-official capacity. Either it’s legal because it’s an official duty, in which case he doesn’t need immunity, or it’s illegal because it isn’t an official duty, in which case he isn’t immune.

            Again, nothings going to happen with this regardless. I’m just stating what’s going on.

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              Sure, but this is about him using the seal in a non-official capacity.

              Why cant he say that he was speaking officially as the president of the US? He was discussing economics. He wasn’t talking about his meme coin.

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                As I said, he can, in which case it’s legal. Normally a president would have to argue that, but we’re well past that point.

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          He’ll just say something like he was using it to build relationships with the leaders of other countries or some ridiculous bullshit. Unfortunately “official” while obvious to us may be more ambiguous to the law.

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        He has immunity for “Official” presidential acts. Establishing/ promoting a private business concern is NOT an official presidential act.

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          The problem is that SCOTUS said two things:

          1. “Official” acts are basically whatever Trump says they are unless the Supreme Court says otherwise.

          2. Official acts can’t be investigated or used as evidence of criminal activity for unofficial acts. In other words, if Trump says it’s tied to an official act, it’s covered as well.

          In other words, Trump can do whatever the fuck he wants. All he’s got to say is that the whole thing was tied to his implementation of economic policy or something and it’s suddenly an “official act” that can’t even be investigated unless the Supreme Court says it can.

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        And you’re just going to comply with that?

        I for one would still want to call out whats being done, to make a record for future generations if nothing else.

        Are you really such a good little soldier that the supreme court makes a bad decision and you immediately reorient your entire moral framework to match?

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          What do you mean by am I just going to comply? What does that even mean? What am I supposed to do? Trump is the one not complying along with the Supreme Court and Congress. None of these groups are doing their job. This has happened over and over and over again and still half the country is either cheering it on or clearly ok with it. The other half either don’t care or have been neutered. America democratically voted for this. Don’t blame me for not being emotional enough in a comment.

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          Lemmy loves the defeatist, resigned, comply in advance mentality. It pretty uniformly gets voted to the top.

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            And exactly what is your grand plan, oh wise one?

            Trump has been ignoring court orders left and right. Mass firings are still happening. Fired workers haven’t been rehired. Kilmar Garcia is still stuck in El Salvador. Immigrants are still being sent to third world countries with no notice or due process. Trump is issuing unconstitutional executive orders on the daily, and the Supreme Court themselves may very well rule that all of this is OK.

            Hell, Trump’s lawyers just argued in front of the Supreme Court that they will not abide by the Supreme Court’s decision if they don’t like it. SCOTUS judges didn’t even reply with any kind of threat of consequences for ignoring a SCOTUS decision. They just accepted that Trump may or may not ignore the court and moved on with questioning. Why? Because they know they have no enforcement mechanism. Neither do any of the other courts. Why do you think they’ve done exactly nothing but issue empty threats of some arbitrary and undefined “contempt” charges for DOJ lackeys if they lie to the court 20 or 30 more times? Because that’s all they’ve got. Anything beyond that and they’ll be exposed for having no enforcement mechanism when Trump tells them to go pound sand. The court’s threats have already been exposed as being about as effective as mommy telling a beligerent toddler that she’s going to count to three, but keeps stopping at two and a half, two and three quarters…

            And we all know how it works out. No punishment ever comes. Mommy eventually buys the screaming child the toy just to shut him up, and then wonders why he pulls another temper tantrum in the next store they visit. Same thing applies here.

            But hey, if you’ve got a viable plan besides taking an extra hit of copium and hoping for the best, I’d love to hear it.

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        At this point it’s basically just propaganda to give the illusion that something is being done.