• PeteZa@lemm.ee
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      He’s one of those old guys that’s still just a little boy on the inside.

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    An old-timey duel to the death would be the logical solution to this problem

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    The one time I would not be in favor of due process would be if Trump sent him to El Salvador. A side effect could be that Musk’s lawyers might even be able to fix due process for everyone. If not, he rots in a foreign prison. I see no downside.

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        We already have the precedent (see Andry José Hernández Romero, for example). Someone with power might be able to reverse it.

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    Deport Elon to El Salvador. Then let DOGE defund the prison program accidentally, because they don’t understand why the El Salvadorian prison system is subsidized by the US.

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    A split between the regular fascists and neo-reactionaries could provide an opportunity to overthrow the Trump regime.

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      Not sure which is which though. There are some suggestions that the Plutocrats like Musk, Thiel and others basically want feudal thiefdoms where they can use workers and people and do whatever they please. Bannon afaik is a statist. Trump doesn’t really believe in anything, and wouldn’t care if he’s President, Chairman or Emperor.

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        Indeed. We should not align with either side and instead take advantage of the regular chaos. Much harder to crush discent when there is infighting in the ruling class.

        If the Trump administration spends a lot of resources trying to suppress the billionaires, that would lead to fewer resources available to suppress the general population.

        On the other hand, if the billionaires coup the White House, they would show the US government to be weak to a coup/revolution while simultaneously losing the support of the MAGA crowd. To amplify the latter, we should make sure to spread on social media how JD Vance was chosen by Musk and other billionaires so as to undermine JD Vance’s support among the Republican base should the billionaires replace Trump with him.

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      They’ve been planning this shit since Goldwater, they’ve got contingency plans, that’s how we got here. They’re prepared to lose, that’s why they stacked the decks with heritage foundation plants from the top to the bottom of the system, we’ve already lost and if Elon and Donald get the fuck out of their way then they’ve got it made. I hate to say it, but keeping these idiots where they are is our best bet at pulling through this without having to start a war.

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        Well, we need to purge every person associated with the Heritage Foundation after the revolution.

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          That should definitely be an active part of the revolution, don’t give them a chance to apologize or pretend to reform or understand, kill them in their moment of tyranny and nobody will mourn them. We can’t have some bullshit ideological version of Anastasia happening to undo everything.

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            I’m not saying to kill them necessaries but certainly remove them from their positions, jail them for any crimes they have committed, seize their assets ect.

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            While cruel and evil, I have to agree with this position regarding neoconfederates. America has suffered a great deal of malice and corruption from allowing the original Confederates to retake root in the south after Reconstruction was shuttered. This can’t be allowed again.

            The tree of liberty needs to be watered and given manure. The likes of Thiel, Trump, Majory, Musk, Yarvin, and others would finally serve a useful purpose.

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              It is neither cruel nor evil to remove cruelty and evil from the world. To kill that which intends to kill all is merely establishing a will to live.

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                For me, it is important to not completely dehumanize members of the neoconfederates. They must be thoroughly extinguished, but reason and limits must be remembered, else the good guys will become rotten in turn. We mustn’t feel good from hurting people, or it will become an addiction.

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      Usually when things fly off the rails cuz the writers already did everything they wanted but now have to keep the story going in the name of profit

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      I was very confused by that, because in British English, “dew” sounds like “jew”, and it took me a moment to realise that it sounds like “do” in American English.

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        I didn’t know that! Definitely did not mean it as “jew it”!! This was just the first version of the meme I found, I always thought of it as “do it.”

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    One good thing to come out of this is if trump cancels Musk’s new billions in government contracts that were the main reason Musk bought trump in the first place. 🤞

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      I’d counter that decimating all the departments actively investigating his interests was his primary motivation and the contracts were just a little extra self dealing on top…

      Though it would be great fun to watch him exit now going full self righteous on the way out, only to have his companies bankrupted once the new gov contracts are cancelled, because he’d destroyed all their other income sources during his crusade to save himself.

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        Yes, good point. He was in it for both of those things and probably a bunch of other less obvious stuff. I’d like to see the contracts cancelled and the investigations re-opened.

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      I think there has been a shift in power. A couple months ago Trump was 100% Musk’s bitch. Fuck, his kid told Trump to shut up and that he “wasn’t the president”. Musk definitely had something on Trump. The Epstein files would definitely fit the bill.

      I’m having a hard time believing anybody would be dumb enough to not have a backup, but this is Musk. He’s out of his fucking gourd half the time.

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        Yes, he was completely submissive to Musk and his little X brat! I kind of marveled at how he sat there and took shit from them in that office and I knew Musk owned him. I don’t really think the Epstein thing is that important. Everyone already knows about it, and his followers won’t believe it or won’t care. If a crime, I think it would have to be something bigger. Like on the level of the conspiracy theory that Musk was able to rig the election in some states (though I’m not sure even that would be prosecuted). But then Musk would also be incriminated.

        I think it’s more likely that there was a huge sum of money trump was going to get paid, that Musk had control of until the investigations into Musk and his companies got shut down and all the billions in government contracts to his companies were signed and delivered, then once trump finally got paid for the services rendered, he doesn’t need Musk anymore, so he’s out.

        The thing that was never considered by a lot of people who helped get trump in power for their own gain, both the first time and this time, is that once he’s in there he has the full power of the government to go after you if you don’t toe the line. He can ruin them financially and even put them in prison now. They forgot, trump never honors a deal. He’ll screw you over the minute you no longer have something he needs or can no longer threaten him.