• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    We convince officers and other respected leaders to coup at the right time at the right signal.

    But we also accept that the Grunts and dumbasses are gonna dumbass. Maybe you can get like an E-8 or E-9 on our side but don’t give much effort to E-3 or E-5.

    But sitting around hoping that the military just magically appears on our side (that leans hard into Libertarianism at best and outright far right hooo rah at worst) is dumb.

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      5 hours ago

      I’m addressing an instance of doomerism. Participation of current or former military in the rebellion occupies my thoughts far less than that, currently.

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        5 hours ago

        Doomerism on the correct contexts is correct.

        We shouldn’t expect a military coup on this issue. The vast majority of soldiers will take the side of Police and ICE on this issue and proudly stand by them.

        Doomerism here allows us to focus our efforts elsewhere, where it’d be more fruitful to strike back vs Trump.

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          2 hours ago

          You’re describing pragmatism, a solutions-oriented mindset.

          I’m referring to left’s problem with edgy despair evangelists suffering from a deliberately propagated fascist contagion that must be recognized and treated rather than allowed to spread.

          Why? Because it deactivates would-be activists (including, for example, voters who had the chance to prevent this fascist takeover). It is not harmless. It must be addressed.

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          3 hours ago

          It is not even that they “will” take the side of fascism. They already have at every step of the way.

          We can sit thinking warm and cheery thoughts. Or we can think about what it will mean to survive for people who aren’t privileged enough to be a cishet white guy without any history of giving a shit about other human beings.