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    “ICE took a lot of bad people off the street that day. We arrested a sexual predator, arrested gang members, arrested somebody that had an armed robbery conviction. So we made L.A. safer, but you’re not hearing any of this,” Homan said. " All you hear is rhetoric about ICE being racist and ICE being Nazis and terrorists,…"

    “Sure we may have swept up dozens and dozens of unrelated non-criminal undocumented immigrants, possibly fully legal documented immigrants, or hell even native born American citizens. That’s just collateral damage. We’ll sort them all out when they arrive in El Salvador. Who knows, maybe we might even let them come back to US soil. Stranger things have happened.” - trump’s border tsar probably

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      Here’s the thing, Tom. You just said a lot of things, and maybe they’re true and maybe they’re not, but I can’t believe any of them because you’re part of an administration where everyone lies continuously. And even if I did, it doesn’t excuse imprisonment for life without a trial in a foreign prison for terrorists. That’s literally the kind of thing that Nazis did.

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      Who knows, maybe we might even let them come back to US soil they might leave CECOT alive—some day.

      FTFY.

      When you kidnap people without due process on the regular you’re encouraging people to fight back. When you send them to foreign gulags known for literally torturing and killing people and forcing them into slave labor you’re encouraging them to fight back with deadly force.

      Dying—fighting for your life—sure sounds better than just giving up and letting ICE take you away. At this point the Trump Administration and ICE cannot be trusted to execute due process. They’re operating outside of the law. They are the lawless ones.

      They’re hoping for deadly conflict and I fear they’re going to get it. Though, on the plus side I’m 100% certain they will be unhappy with the outcome. In both the short and long term.

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    “Then the reporter asked, ‘Could Governor Newsom or Mayor [Karen] Bass be arrested?’ I said, ‘Well, no one’s above the law. If they cross the line, commit a crime—absolutely, they can. So there was no discussion about arresting Newsom,” Homan added.

    Reporter should have asked about trump and the 1/6ers too then

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      I mean fuck that guy as in, his political asperations should be dead with his bullshit “lets find common ground” with nazi’s.

      But, this situation is far more about what’s going on than who it’s going on with. In this situation he’s doing the right thing, he’s pushing back against facism. On it’s face trump is testing the limits of the laws, the willingness of the national guard to commit attacks on US citizens and government officials. If trump succesfully arrests newsom and gets away with it. Than you can expect 2 results. Some centrists will cancel any attempts to slow down the martial law to try to spare themselves, and those willing to fight will also be arrested.

      I don’t know your stances enough to say whether or not you have a single politician you support. But assuming they are not pro load everyone into concentration camps without due process, than you should be concerned.

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      Like the guy or not, it’s about the precedent. If they arrest him for criticism they can arrest any politician they want for any reason. I don’t like Newsom either, but if he actually got arrested for this we are all fucked. Arresting people simply because you disagree with them is exactly what fascists do and advocating for it in any way is dangerous and only enables it further.

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        You’re right of course, but it’ll be a cold day in hell when I start sticking up for Gavin Newsom.

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          Don’t stick up for the person, stick up for the policy. It’s wrong for the president to order the arrest of politicians who are standing up for their constituents, full stop.

          Trump could arrest fucking MTG for saying she regrets voting for the big beautiful bill, and I’ll call it wrong for a president to arrest a member of congress over a poltiical disagreement. While still noting she’s still an idiot that no one in the right mind should have ever voted for.

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      If we let them arrest everyone who isn’t an ideal leftist, then we’ll be enough of a disparate minority to stuff into mass graves. So that poem/saying goes.