An Israeli official told the Post: “We presented the American administration with evidence of Iran’s breakthrough toward a nuclear bomb. There was full and complete coordination with the Americans.”
Iran’s armed forces spokesperson accused Israel of carrying out attacks against Iran with US support.
This comes after Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement, "Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes against Iran and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region.
Except for the part where Trump leaked the planned attack to get street credit
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/12/politics/trump-israel-iran-strike
Israel: No, US, you don’t understand. We’re dragging you into everything we do and you’re going to help us or we fund your primary opponent that will. We can’t do any of the shit we do alone, we need you to do it.
Israel really is the little brother that you’re constantly bailing out because they’re always in trouble.
more like a rabid pitbull that maul kids to death at every given chance
At least problem animals are captured by animal control and handled
There is no leash or any enforcement in this scenario
Not surprised, who else would supply intelligence and targeting data from satellites. When this shit escalates, I expect every fucking MAGAt to join the US Army as an 11 Bravo, grunt infantry. Fucking idiots!
They didn’t have nukes in 1996 when Netenyahu started this shit, and they still don’t today.
Israel is hell bent on destroying its neighbors, and as always America is hell bent on being its little removed and providing arms and cover the whole way. What a disgrace.
Especially, fuck trump for another disastrous lie claiming he didn’t want more wars. We knew it was bullshit, and it only took him 5 months to prove it.
Uk also into it.
I’d wager EU
Definitely not all of the EU. Our Danish prime minister has officially denounced the way Israel has been conducting the war in Gaza for instance, and the majority of our population thinks that they are stepping way out of bounds.
That’s good to hear. Username apropos.
I picked that name long before Ragnar Lothbrok made his appearance on TV. I’ve used it for about 25 years, and made it up myself for a Danish browser based viking game. It is a pure coincidence that the name was actually used in the viking era.
The baddies can’t even keep their story straight. How shocking.
Only villains trust other villains to keep their word
More details:
We’re the baddies this time
This time lol
Trump will claim full responsibility for this. How it was his idea and plan. And how strong and tough he is. And then get the US directly involved, after Iran is defeated to brag how great he is.
It’s his fault they have the bomb, if that’s true.
He tore up the nuclear nonproliferation deal with Iran in his first term. Did not bother to even have a replacement, the dumb shit.
I think the commenters here fail to understand the the USG and quite a bit of the population approve of what’s going on right now.
What a shocking revelation.
All the gEnOsiDe JoE people need to understand this is one of the things Biden (and, presumably Harris) were keeping from happening by not completely shutting down all interactions with Israel’s Likud. Now that enough people didn’t stop trump, we’re going to get in some deep shit.
If I was some kinda conspiracy person I’d say that’s because as much kompromat as Putin has on ya boi there’s way, way more damning stuff in Epstein’s files. But obviously that couldn’t be because
Is that how it worked? I seem to remember Iran having to be the adult in the room last year and ending the back-and-forth rocket attacks.
Appeasement does not work. Didn’t in the '30s, and will not now. The Likud and other war-hawk fascist sorts will continue to push and consolidate power if their platform shows results (we are untouchable). Maybe Biden’s Chamberlain strategy delayed war, but it did not and cannot prevent it so long as it insulates Israel from the consequences of its actions.
There was nothing any president the United States could currently do to stop the fascism in israel. Not only that. It literally wasn’t even on the ballot. However outright fascism at home was.
Between standard fascit Republican vote suppression, disenfranchisement, and one sided myopic amplification of propaganda surrounding current events in israel. Many people who were against Republicans and against the genocide in Israel. We’re literally convinced to vote for the fascist who would make it worse. Because of all the propaganda.
It’s a damn shame that we weren’t in a place where the genocide in Palestine was on the ballot. That absolutely should have been one of the issues we could differentiate on. It just never was. And all the short-sighted focused attacks on Biden and harris. Only brought the fascism and genocide home.
Biden wasn’t perfect, he wasn’t even adequate, but he was somehow still better. And I wish we had him right now or Harris. But all these fools couldn’t stop from being manipulated into making unachievable perfection the enemy of something that we could have actually had.
Well, unless you’re in a very specific office the CIA you probably don’t know what was said or done either.
There are several ways to prevent war. I am quite sure the trump administration does not know, or care, what they are. We may as well be a nation lead by The Real Housewives. And I’m sure that would be an improvement.
Israel bombed Lebanon and Iran onder Biden what the hell are you on about.
Also Genocide Joe spell it correctly.
We’ll see how trump handles it then.
Bombing Iran (then) was in retaliation to being bombed. Lebanon is a whole other situation which we can go into if you still want to hold to that as being some sort of failure of Biden’s.
Not only do I know those things but yes I know how to spell it.
I wouldn’t give that administration that much credit. When it came out that they were saying and doing utterly nothing about Gaza when they were telling the press about all the “discussions and negotiations” they were having, you knew there was no credible restraint on Israel.
Because the problem with Israel is our congress. They are owned by them. Even if Biden has come out strongly against israel. The Congress would just override him. Biden was never a good politician. But on top of that he had nothing but shit options available to him. I still think he should have stood up and forced Congress to go against him. But current events in Israel were never going to be stopped by a presidential election.
I don’t buy that, the executive is entirely in control of that relationship by law, even real, non-Trumpian law. He could veto anything congress wanted to put up against him if he had truly wanted to do anything. Hell, they said they were doing things that they never even tried to do, let alone going against Congress with tougher measures like cutting off arms shipments. They didn’t actually do the slightest amount of pushback except for announcing false “negotiations”.
If that Congress was in thrall to Israel, the executive was bought and paid for.
I suggest you read up on what a veto proof majority is. Literally they could stop and override his veto on just about anything regarding israel. And best of all it doesn’t care if you buy it or not. It simply exists. All we can do is acknowledge it and take it into account.
The only reason Trump is able to do any of the things he’s currently doing. Is because he has the support of far too much of the Judiciary and the majority of the legislature.
Deny all you like. While I sympathize with a lot of you, and think you had good intentions. You were played like fools and that is just a simple fact. Something that we should remember and try to do better about in the future. And the first step on that path is to acknowledge you are manipulated.
We have our work cut out for us. We have a whole legislature and Judiciary to replace before replacing the president means anything.
Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I’m a third party watching the carnage from the outside.
Yes, they could have gotten a supermajority together and overrode the veto, but that would have been highly unlikely, given how often that’s ever occurred. And by not buying it, I’m saying that they could have done what they said they did and more, but simply didn’t regardless of what might have happened in Congress. They didn’t even do the small amount they said they were doing that didn’t get called out by any large amount of representatives.
It’s occurred several times in my life time. And if any issue would have seen another. It would be Israel. Take it from someone who has lived here 50 years and isn’t a third party.
I’m not here to defend biden. He absolutely could and should have done more. I’m just here to call out the people attacking the Democrats for things that were largely out of their control in that presidential election. Only succeeding at helping to get the actual fascist into office. Not that Democrats didn’t contribute to that plenty on their own as well.
Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I’m a third party watching the carnage from the outside.
Well feel free to help whenever then
When you get your underground railroad rolling to get the handmaids out, I’ll be here. Pretty hard to get excited about helping when your own countrymen can’t be arsed to do anything except slacktivise on Farcebook.
Like vote for CIA Democrats? Please.
I live in a red state. I’ll vote for anyone that stands a chance of keeping a Republican out of office. That’s just basic harm reduction. And yes that would theoretically include even a CIA democrat. But the joke’s on you. Republicans largely run unopposed here.
Then you can safely vote third.
They didn’t actually do the slightest amount of pushback
You mean break the law? Yeah why didn’t he do that. Everyone does it.
Biden is literally the top AIPAC recipient. There was nobody more owned by Israel than Biden. Biden basically made his entire career batting for Israel and siding with Republicans.
And? That doesn’t refute anything I said.
Biden is literally the top AIPAC recipient.
This doesn’t say that. Where did you hear that?
Yeah that seems like a dubious claim
Biden was never a good politician.
The dude was there for fifty years and became President. That’s a helluva high bar for being a good politician.
Ascending a completely corrupt system does not make someone good. Good at ascending the system. But that’s a different thing.
Okay then who is a good politician? It can’t just be in terms of “positions held” because that’s only a small part of politics.
Here’s a hint I’m an anarchist so generally not anyone above mayor. But seriously, Biden who dismissed Anita hill, who voted against busing Etc. I think he gets a lot of flack for things he has no control over. And in fact I’m one of the people that’s been voting you up here. But let’s not kid ourselves into pretending he was some really good guy/ politician at that level. That would nearly be an impossibility.
Well fair enough, I guess being a good politician itself is against the anarchist code. And if he had not become Obama’s VP and grown so much through that relationship, I’d probably just agree with you and move on. But I think he really did learn a lot from Obama and changed a lot of his attitudes. HIs administration did a lot of amazing things, not least of which was the money for renewables, amongst other things. I think his time was up and he should have not had any designs on a second term, but all in all, I think he did a good job the last 20 years or so of his politicking.
Of course around here there’s only one aspect to him and we know what that is and how we all feel about it.
Well, one of the “credible” restraints was the refusal to send them a shipment of arms that were already agreed and paid for. The republiQans in Congress forced him to do that and why do you think that was? It wasn’t because they were on the same team.
Also, we’re looking at literally the lowest-level information available with news reports. We have no insight into internal discussions or communications (back before they were so easily available on Signal).
Don’t complain about certain war criminals because there are worse war criminals? What an amazing logic
The amount of complaining about Joe vs the amount of complaining about trump w/r/t Israel/Gaza is hilariously russian-troll-sized lopsided.
And both are key to propping up trump.
I never saw you a single time in posts about palestinian being murdered by israel. You don’t care about thrm. You are happy that trump is worse so you can say see "i told you trump is worse, now ennoy plaestinians and iranian dying "
I have a low complaining-about-palestinians-being-murdered-by-israel score? Well that’s upsetting. Can I complain about it here or do I need to get in a specific thread?
You just use palestinian as political tool. I don’t compare war criminals just like you do
No?
