As the situation in regard to report immigrants escalated, and the army may be used against Americans, do you believe there’s a way back, or is this a one way street to civil war?
As the situation in regard to report immigrants escalated, and the army may be used against Americans, do you believe there’s a way back, or is this a one way street to civil war?
Nope. They’re headed straight towards jackboot dictatorship.
If nothing else, Trump and his henchmen are proving day after day that the Americans talking big about their god-given Second Amendment right that keeps the government in check as the reason to own so many firearms and overlook so many deaths by firearm was basically a pretense: this is literally the scenario when they swore right and left they would exercise it and they aren’t.
All a bunch of phoneys, is what they are. And they’re getting the nasty dictatorship they richly deserve.
Most of the people that talked up the 2nd amendment and that bought a bunch of guns are cheering on what’s happening, so they won’t fight against it. They’re not phonys they’re part of the dictatorship. It seems they like when other people get hurt, as long as its not them.
They just don’t know history enough to realize, eventually it will be them. Just give it time. The only people that are truly safe from a dictorship are the dictator. Even his inner circle, a dictator will turn on a dime if they perceive disloyalty, or fear being usurped, or you made them look weak by doing a bad job, etc. Literally no one is safe but the dictator, that’s generally why everyone is scared shitless all the time during times of dictatorship. No one is safe.
Yeah. I feel like the concept of America is just completely manufactured. Personified by the ignorant blowhards who LARP as heros but only fight when backed by the MIC (hold technological superiority against an inferior force), the Christian taliban who hate jesus and everything he stood for, and the oligarchs who got rich off the backs of immigrants; responsible for the populations mental illness epidemic.
It’s quite obvious that the average American will roll over and let the Stalin, Putin, Mao, Xi or Hitler force them into absolute supplication before they bother with the minor inconvenience of protest or strikes, while being stupid enough to believe they represent freedom and justice. The only people willing to oppose the psychopaths are too liberalised to accept that they won’t be stopped without violence, or too fragmented to provide meaningful resistance. A massive general strike would work, but that would require more cooperation and discipline than Americans have ever displayed, and the mental illness is too strong.
I hope I’m wrong.
Most of what you wrote is sadly true for any country.
Don’t you think this cheering has already lost some of it’s volume?
Mixed.
Some stopped cheering. Others are getting louder.
American Founding Fathers were not dumb - a lot of them had spent time in the 18th century Europe, which was an interesting place at the time. Full of wars and rebellions. Great for analyzing pros and cons of political systems, awful for an average guy. Keeping the general population armed was a good idea in the context.
What they failed to predict is the identity politics. That being armed or not will become a show of loyalty to your group rather than defense against tyranny. With those needing it the most being the ones to reject it.
The US founding fathers were vehemently against a standing army, because it could be used for exactly this very thing: seizing control from cities and states. That’s why they only wanted militias.
You’re wrong about the founders not understanding identity politics; I recommend you read through George Washington’s farewell address. It’s is lengthy, for sure, but it explicitly warns Americans about the danger of unchecked fealty to a political party and the promulgation of a politics of identity versus national interest and unity.
The founders knew our democracy would be repeatedly tested by enemies foreign and domestic (almost like they included that in the Constitution for a reason) they simply hoped we would be educated enough to see when we’re being manipulated, and faithful enough to the country’s ideals to defend it. We’ll see if they’re right.
Your second paragraph was considered a feature in the context of the time
As if some private guns would be any sort of fair fight against the full force of the US military anyway
As if an organised military of any kind has any hope of winning a guerrilla war in one of the largest, most populous, and most heavily armed countries on earth.
The ability of the American people to defeat the American army in a revolution is solely dependent on their willingness to take casualties. It’s been shown time and again that a massively superior army like the US really isn’t able to deal with a war where enemy combatants are also the civilian population. An exception is Israel in Gaza, where they’ve decided to just level everything to the ground, and massacre the civilians.
Yeah I love how other countries like to mock the US for Vietnam, yet for some reason seem to forget about it when it comes to “us military would dominate their population”
I’m sorry but some random Douchebag from Omaha or some small town in Texas doesn’t know jack OR shit about the countryside around the Sierra or Appalachian mountains, and all the fancy tools at their disposal didn’t help them much when they had to search through desert for 20 years chasing down “terrorists”
Sure, the US couldn’t beat vietman because they didn’t know the terrain and would never be able to convince the people they’re shooting at its for their own good.
But that totally doesn’t apply when it’s the US fighting against itself, somehow.
The enemy is both weak and strong, I guess.
The American public lost their minds at 2k casualties in 2001. I doubt they have the determination for a civil war.
American soldiers surely wouldn’t turn against their own civilian compatriots en masse, right? 😔
Some would not, others just do what they’re told.
And some would be happy to do that. That group might not be large, but these fuckers are usually officers, not common soldiers, so they have more power.
Oh hell no. Fuck off with this.
Phony? Try most of them are MAGA. They like how things are going. Fascists and racists, most of them.
And why is that? Because my Democrat party and the vast majority of my fellow Democrats are anti-gun.
Therefore, almost all the “2a” people you refer to like all the jack booted thuggery going on, and there aren’t enough of the rest of us to make a difference: One protester with a gun gets shot and or arrested. You need twenty+. And that’s before Shitler sent in the now-dishonored USMC. wtf are even 20 armed civilians supposed to do against trained military combat units?
So go ahead and STFU. If any of my fellow US Democrats are reading this, Fuck You for being part of the problem.
Ask Vietnam.
thanks for the support
you just sound bloodthirsty