• Mangoholic@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    What a surprise did the puppet lose its benefits already? Or is it not doing what they want?

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    8 months ago

    What you mean they can’t just fund a random terrorist organization to do it for them so they have another group to go after and demonize in 10 to 20 years like they’ve done to other countries countless times in the past? Wild

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    8 months ago

    Oh, wow, Israeli Fascists spreading ever more unbelievable fables of them being the true victims.

    I did NAZI that coming.

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      I haven’t read down the thread yet, just saw your comment. Maybe others have said something similar-

      Just out of curiosity, why do you say it is a fable? It seems obvious that Netanyahu has fallen out of favor with the Biden administration and that Biden’s administration is courting the opposition. See the recent visit by the Israeli opposition leader to the US.

      “Overthrow” is probably too strong, but I guarantee the US State Department and intelligence agencies are working behind the scenes to weaken Netanyahu and strengthen the opposition. There will likely be an attempt to remove Netanyahu before the US elections in November. As it is, the genocide is a noose around Biden too. If he can stop the current situation, it will help him tremendously in November.

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          Sure, what would you like to bet?

          But to be clear, I think it will be within established democratic processes. It won’t be s coup or anything like that. For example, Schumer had called for elections. If they have the elections, it would be an attempt to remove Netanyahu.

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        There is zero evidence for it, only conjecture, just like your post reads as an “imagine that” or “I wish that” in all but actually using those specific words.

        Sure, we can all wonder about the possibilities, and even presume that it might (based on nothing but some personal sympathy for a specific american political force) but we’re not government members and are not telling it to the Press.

        Might is the domain of fantasy, a universe away from is.

        The “enemy from outside” is quite the Propaganda staple of Fascists, including the Nazis, and variants of it have repeatedly been used by this Israeli administration to justify their current, Nazi-like mass murder along etnic lines, so an Israeli government member “casualy” sharing with journalists such evidence-free wonderings - stated as fact, no less - seems far too convenient and within that pattern to be a mere accident.

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          You did have Schumer calling for elections in Israel. Biden invited the opposition party to discussions in America against the protestations of Netanyahu.

          There are a lot of mixed messages with the continued arms shipments, but it seems obvious there is some movement in the Biden administration to find a more agreeable negotiation partner. I doubt they’ll go outside of the established democratic processes, but again, I won’t be surprised if there is some pressure for Netanyahu to step down.

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    I doubt the US is trying to overthrow Netanyahu, but if they were, I’m glad of it.

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    I feel like this is just fascist propaganda to further entrench Netanyahu’s position. The idea of Brandon taking a move like this against Israel seems iffy.

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      Right here. He’s the head of the administration giving them access to the weapons to carry the genocide out. At best he is abetting a genocide. At worst a willing participant.

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      Sometimes i doubt myself when i block someone. Sometimes a commenter’s history is so illustrative of who they are and what they’re worth generally that i can’t hit it fast enough

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    Surprised they didn’t accuse random US politicians of secretly being hamas

    not their usual strategy

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    Well they aren’t exactly being an allied nation right now. So other than giving them to the wolves, if the Israeli people want the US as an Allie, they need to decide between peace and genocide.

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      Sorry but the US isn’t exactly the pacifist and/or peacekeeping nation, you think they are. Not to mention that they are trying to spy on their own allies, tap their phones, install backdoors in network equipment, persecute whistle blowers, etc., meddle with other countries internal affairs, trying to stifle the competition of other countries economics and what not. And now supporting full blown genocide and sending arms to Israel. And believe me a lot of people in the US were very happy when the UK left the EU.

      So they are just a tad better than Russia in my books and I wonder what the world would be like without countries like the US, Russia, China.

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    He definitely shouldn’t be in charge of anything…he’s dehumanizing humans…like a country and leader did in the 1930’s.

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      Yeah

      Israel had every right to defend themselves against the Hamas but what he and his far right ministers are doing and saying is making it really hard to support them and believe that it’s really only an attempt to eradicate Hamas and not also about expanding Israel as they do in the Westbank for years.

      They are really making it almost impossible to support the legitimate cause of rescuing hostages and security their population from Hamas and are actively fuelling antisemitism through the anti-zionism they provoke

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        Dude … straight numbers…you really think that many in Gaza were actual Hamas vs Palestinians trying to live their lives? Hamas sucks but this is like trying to kill all Florida because of a few Florida men, or all of DC because of politicians…this is genocide and there is no way to defend it.

        Edit: Israel literally made up lies about rape and got that bullshit published in the New York Times ruining them as actual journalism and then bombed refuge camps…not an easy argument to defend.

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          You know how many people in Germany that weren’t died because of the bombings?

          If your government starts a war you have to pay the price.

          Why is noone calling Hamas to surrender?

          Sure Israel is definitely able to be more careful and their right wing ministers are only adding fuel - but that doesn’t really change their right to defend themselves (and Hamas is still attacking them each day)

          That whole situation is a total clusterfuck and I really wish Israel would get rid of netanyahu and vote for someone that’s interested in a long term solution that’s including Palestine.

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      Western leaders didn’t mind that guy in the 1930s for a good while until his dehumanizing got too carried away. After financing him, supporting him and allowing him to gain power for a good while, it then began to get too difficult to get him out of power … then things got carried away … and you know the rest.

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        And some idiotic folks in this country think trump isn’t marching straight into that same history…replace jew with LGBT and there you go.

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        Don’t forget IBM building the systems to efficiently catalog and murder the jews in the holocaust, and pretty much every non-jewish-owned corporation being perfectly happy empowering fascism for profit — no different to today, with most major corporations still “donating” to R’s and every other fascist or dictator globally.

        Turns out capitalism doesn’t give two shits about freedom or democracy and only worships the almighty dollar…

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        Seems like no one cared so much about the dehumanizing (a lot of which was hidden and not fully discovered until later) and instead it was more about stopping his massive land grab.

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    Ok how does that stop far-right Zionists? Will there be a crackdown on fascists? No? They’ll come back into power soon because Israel is a racist colonial ethnostate.

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      If you’re under the impression that Israelis universally support Netanyahu, I have a feeling you’ve never actually talked to any.

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    Been hearing this shit for 5 months.

    5 months ago I never thought Biden would be so much of a dog to let Netanyahu order Biden around for half a year to support committing blatant Genocide, and covering for him with UN vetoes.

    They have Biden on a leash.

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        I bet he’d have a pretty passionate stance against it if you asked him about China and Uyghurs.

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      Yeah, the reverse is more likely. Bibi has Biden on such a leash that he’ll give them anything they want.

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    Just… stop supporting Israel? That’s it. Please. If the genocide stops and Netanyahu goes down for it, we are on a less dark timeline.