• 58008@lemmy.world
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    Why would they not just stay on Twitter, Truth Social, reddit or Facebook? Those places are tailor-made for MAGA 🤔

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    I’ve noticed a significant uptick in rightist trolls on the fediverse since the devil called Charlie Kirk home. Absolutely nowhere is safe from fascist infiltration for long. Hopefully the half decent instances defederate from those cesspits en masse.

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    I went to maga.place and it’s so edgy! Some 13 year old is having a good laugh at their own jokes.

    I know it’s brand new, but as of right now it seems like a waste of time to even talk about it.

    Could be a different story a week from now, but until then who cares.

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    1 month later: why is our new instance filled exclusively with incels and edgelords and fuckwits?

    1 year later: President Trump signs executive order requiring everyone to federate with MAGA

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      1 year + 1 day later: turns out all instances are running on non-American servers.

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    Good, the more people on this protocol the better. If they behave then they shouldnt be defederated. But most maga beliefs are already breaking every rule.

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        obviously but until they break the rules the whole instance shouldnt be defederated. I highly doubt an instance called magaland is going to last long though.

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        There is already a ton of open fascists on this platform. Our instance is defederated with some but not all of them. This is due to rule breaking behavior

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    Beware of what? It’s no different than any other instance and capable of being subscribed to, scrolled past or blocked.

    Stop advertising for them and let them have their federated echo chamber, just like the communists, socialists, leftists and others have.

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    I’ve always wondered why conservatives insist on coming to the fediverse when conventional networks are more appealing to them and their ideals nowadays. Or is that still not enough?

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      They need an audience to perform for. When ever you see a social media “safe space” for conservatives (Voat, Truth Social, etc.) they almost always wither and die. They need people to blame for being everything wrong with the world as well as react to their terrible takes, otherwise there’s no point in shouting their outrage and anger on the internet.

    • potoooooooo ☑️@lemmy.world
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      When I was a conservative piece of shit, in my younger days, I had the most outlandish bumper stickers you can imagine. Probably more outlandish than you can imagine, actually, 99.9% likelihood. There were quite a few. I knew I was being an ass and I loved when it offended people, because I was miserable. Someone was paying attention to me. I was getting a reaction. I existed! Anyway, yeah, it can be as simple as “they get off on ruining your day cuz they’re miserable pieces of shit.” Speaking from experience.

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        Bingo. These are the same people who will say that most political violence comes from the left while removing a study showing the opposite: a study about a statistical trend that has been well known and documented for longer than I’ve been alive.

        They don’t care. Their beliefs shape shift to fit whatever is most expedient in the moment. They will openly lie to your face, without even trying to hide that it’s a lie while they smile and say they’re being honest. The people who gaslit the nation about project 2025 only to have cabinet members gleeposting about implementing it on social media.

        Truth is irrelevant and reality is an inconvenience. Hypocrisy is as dead to them as the corpse of civility they prop up whenever it suits their narrative.

    • qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
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      FOSS is for everyone. Not wanting to be dependent on big tech isn’t uniquely a leftist ideal, and it should be obvious by now that the political affiliation and community guidelines of big tech companies are entirely dependent on the current political landscape, not any moral values or held ideals, and can change at any moment.

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      Same reason why tankies don’t just move to China, or why some Canadians had Trump bumperstickers: the point is to take over and wield authority as a weapon. Of course they try to invade and pollute every space they can and muddy waters wherever possible.

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      They go everywhere because even if a bunch of people are like “fuck off nazis” there will be a few people that are like “oh hey you have some good ideas”.

      That’s why they’ve been recruiting online since the beginning of the internet. Capture whoever you can that’s sympathetic and keep bolstering numbers by any means necessary. Worked out pretty well for them

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      Free platforms like the Fediverse would actually suit conservative ideals of freedom quite well.

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        Since when do conservatives follow conservative ideals of freedom?

        That’s a reason why it won’t work - see Reddit’s r/Conservative which lists every post as “approved speech only” aka “flaired users only”.

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          You don’t hear them talk about free speech constantly? You don’t see conservative platforms popping up every week? Truth Social anyone?

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      If they get defederated, they just spin up a new instance and keep spreading their hate.

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      Before Trump, the “traditional” social media was likely pushing the Democrats’ agenda (like the Twitter files under the guise of more moderation. Now the tactic is being used by the Trump administration just more in the open and in more traditional media (Jimmy Kimmel). Big media is such an easy target for govt influence when it’s all ad supported.

      I’d bet they see the writing on the wall that the government has too much influence in social media. So this time they don’t want to be caught with their pants down when Democrats come back into power. The other thing I feel is on the horizon is the end of the ad supported internet. I’ve said it before, be prepared to do it yourself or pay for it. I guarantee the guys behind this instance is in the do it yourself camp.

      Disclaimer: I am libertarian and view both DNC and GOP as different sides of the same authoritarian coin. Right wing flavored, left wing flavored, both are disgusting when it’s authoritarianism.

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      What’s the problem of those right-wing dipshits having their own instance? I’m trying to understand this perspective you all seem to have here.

      Someone please elaborate the hesitancy of us accepting MAGA extremists having their own federated community?

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        Nobody is saying that they can’t, mostly what you’ll get is calls for defederation.

        Calling for defederation is a matter of simply not accepting content or voting from the targeted instance. Everyone has the right to spin up an instance for whatever they believe, but everyone else also has the right to not pass your content through their servers or display it to their users

        This isn’t to call to shut them down, this is to raise awareness so people can update block lists, instance admins to investigate/check with their users/mods on what they want to do

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          Yeah, isn’t truth social part of activitypub, just defederated… like Mastodon instances probably have blocks up if truth social doesn’t have it on their end

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        They can have it. We just don’t want to federate with them, which doesn’t prevent them from having their own instance all for themselves.

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        Because they are trolls whose purpose is to actively harm everybody else. They do not deserve our tolerance.

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        They’re totally allowed to, just as we’re totally allowed to defederate or block or whatever. The question is why are they here, when they have taken over all the mainstream places and don’t really need a federated niche community.

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            Is your argument here that your preferred way to deal with cockroaches is to let them have the run of your house? Hard to red anything rose out of that, given the context.

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              I need you to work on your reading comprehension and try again. Not going to spoon-feed you what I’m saying if you’re here asking me to spell shit out for you friend. Also this is not endorsement of said implications either.

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            You’re not making much sense to me. I ask this sincerely and without prejudice or malice. Are you feeling alright? Do you believe that having someone to talk to might help?

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              Im trying to tell you that fascism/MAGA is similar to an insect infestation. Would you like me to puree some food for you next and do the airplane thing with the spoon?

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                It’s perfectly fine to be frustrated, but please avoid demeaning others. I couldn’t detect sarcasm in either comment, so I read them straight. Lemmy is so averse to sarcasm that I can rarely notice it when it’s there. Were you initially speaking sarcastically?

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                  Yes i was indeed being sarcastic. Apologies for the lack of “/s”, I keep forgetting I’m not smart enough to convey the sarcasm well.