On Monday, just one day after the Republican Party staged a Horst Wessel-style memorial for Charlie Kirk in Glendale, Arizona, President Donald Trump signed an executive order designating “antifa” a “domestic terrorist organization.”
The order claims that antifa is a “militarist, anarchist enterprise” that uses “illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide.”
Antifa, as even FBI Director Christopher Wray was forced to admit in a September 2020 congressional hearing, is not an organization but a broad current of opposition to fascism. “Antifa is an ideology, not an organization,” said Wray, who also testified that the bureau had no data showing any lethal violence committed by the organization.
Since antifa as a formal organization does not exist, Trump’s executive order amounts to a blanket authorization to brand political dissent and opposition to his fascist regime as “terrorism.”
Historically the War Dept was anti fascist… Which means Trump just declared the U.S. military a crimanl terrorist organization… Time to go arrested those serving in the military. Let’s start at the top: The
goodold commander in chief.Good luck with that, orange loser
Where does one go to find a clown wig and a plastic red nose combo large enough to fit a continent?
The entire civilized world has been against fascism at least since 1939. donny is apparently trying to make most of the world a criminal.
To be fair, this is in line with is overall strategy: just go batshit crazy.
America used to be antifa.
Not really though. They were just anti German-Nazi. Just look at all the lynchings, the Jim Crow laws, segregation etc.
Shit news source generally (tankie as all hell), but in this specific case the article seems solid.
Fuck fascism. Fuck this entire administration. Fuck Charlie Kirk and every other nazi like him.
Remember this moment? He’s probably right
Trump is leaving office in a casket tbh. There’s even a decent chance it happens before his term is up.
WSWS tend to be sensationalist in its articles, but I agree with them for once on this matter.
One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa. Don’t forget people, these are the dumbest people in the world running this show.
There are no ‘members’ of Antifa. There are only people that are anti-fascist.
Edit to add: The only people trying to make Antifa a thing are fascists trying to convince the dumbfuck masses that opposition to them is somehow a bad thing. And now they’re trying to make that a crime.
How does one become a “member” of antifa?
Annoy Trump and he’ll declare you one.
I think conflating Antifa with anyone they choose is exactly the objective.
Yup, it’s just a new method to be able to kidnap people off the streets. First it was “they were an immigrant” and then “they looked like an immigrant”. And now it has progressed to “they looked like a domestic enemy of the state”.
I am NOT a member!
I would NEVER be a member of any club that would have someone like ME as a member.
- Groucho Marx, 1959
True, but they have yet to utilize their new terrorist distinction on me, an anti-fascist, so I think the general layperson is safe atm
“They haven’t come for me yet, so we’re still safe” is not very good logic under a fascist regime.
You’re safe until you’re not, at which point, nobody will know because you’ve been disappeared.
So yes, we can hear from the people who we can still hear from. True equals true.
No, “antifa” is, itself, the term for the position of being against fascism. There is no organization.
They also will not care as they’re just going to accuse their enemies of it regardless of how left they are. They know exactly what they are doing, and they’ve been doing it way faster than I expected.
Without being a specific organization, antifa is still a specific culture with symbols, medias and codes forming a specific identity claimed and felt by people. One can be anti-fascist without being antifa.
One can be anti fascist without being anti fascist? Are you on fucking crack M8?
One can be anti-facist without being part of the antifas, yes. I don’t know from where you are but antifa is a specific subculture here, and in many places in Europe at least.
I feel like you’re still thinking ‘antifa’ is an organisation, when it’s simply being opposed to fascism. It’s a concept, not a movement, and it only appears to be a movement when fascism is on the rise, which tends to cause* antifa people to group together more to oppose it. There are some groups explicitly for doing antifa action, but if you’re against fascism, you are antifa by definition. Also ‘antifa’ action can be anything from denouncing Nazis online to protecting trans rights to protesting to any number of other things.
The right has tried to make ‘antifa’ into some sort of bogeyman for a decade, and we shouldn’t allow them to frame what it means.
It’s similar to liking video games. I’m a ‘gamer’ because I like to play games, but I don’t belong to any gamer groups, I don’t go to conventions, and I don’t compete in tournaments. Some people do those things, but I’m no less a gamer because I don’t.
Yes, I am antifa. Enough that I own this book (which I actually recommend everyone read who wants to resist fascism):
No it’s not, also in Europe antifa simply means anti-fascist.
Okay fedbot5000, you did good here but maybe reddit needs your FUD more.
I would argue there is no organization known as “antifa”. Certainly nothing with structure or presence like tpusa or the proud boys, ya know the organization that terrorized the seat of our nation 5 years ago…
One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa.
Reread their comment, they know.
They knew about it because they implied in the second that that the first would pass in the current administration because they are that dumb. They know.
Sending gif trying to look smart while missing the obvious point is kinda embarrassing ngl.
You steel manning and imposing your own assumptions is kinda embarrassing (ngl). You don’t know their mind yet you insist on reading past their words. You just look like a dork who wants there to be more than there is to a thing.
So, so dumb that I can fully imagine a scenario like this playing out amongst the orange knobhead and his staff on the daily
explain how so? consider that there is no way to “be” a member of a group that does not exist in that manner. being of the cohort of people who are antifascist is not the same as being a “member.” I suppose we are saying the same thing. :)
It’s crazy the amount of people that didn’t get your comment. You might want to clarify… XD
I don’t support fascism. I’m wholly against it. I guess that makes me antifascist.
Get um, boys.
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In the last 30 years, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) has documented only one killing committed by an alleged antifa supporter. On August 29, 2020, Michael Reinoehl shot and killed fascist Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a member of Patriot Prayer, during a protest in Portland, Oregon. On social media following the killing, Trump encouraged police forces to kill Reinoehl. “Do your job, and do it fast. Everybody knows who this thug is,” Trump said. Reinoehl was murdered by police and federal agents on September 3, 2020.
While there have been virtually no documented killings committed by alleged antifa members, there have been hundreds of murders and tens of thousands of assaults committed by self-declared fascists, antisemites, far-right militia elements and white supremacists over the last 30 years.
I’m still going to protest, because I’m not the coward that these fascists are hoping for.
Getting arrested for holding a sign on public property will be a slam dunk lawsuit.
Executive Orders cover the federal executive branch. They aren’t federal law, they aren’t state law & the certainly don’t override the Constitution.
Grow a fucking spine.
^^^ Look at this guy with his…
“I’ll be protected by the law” attitude…
We need to protest even if we’re not protected. We need to protest even if we wind up hanging for it, like Sofie Scholl.
In a sane world, yeah, it would be a slam-dunk lawsuit, but we’re in uncharted territory now, so who knows if that will remain true. The direction we’re moving in will be so much worse. If we don’t protest now, when we might possibly have some protection, we’ll wind up in a world where our protest will absolutely cost us our life.
I get what you guys are saying but this idealogy is what makes this a reality. People must continue to protest in large numbers. Only once the numbers dwindle will they sweep in and start charging people with terrorism. There is safety in numbers.
Not for long.
Is Antifa even an organization, and not just a general term for people who oppose fascism, which should be the majority of the population?
Antifa released a statement on this EO.
I love that this is their sole response, hosted on a .org domain and that there’s nothing else there. No Contact Us page, no upcoming events, nothing to indicate they actually do anything or are even a group. Just that dumbass tweet and BLM support.
I almost clicked that.
Nice try FBI
There is no general “antifa”, but there are many individual (often regional) organizations with some form of “anti-fascist” or “antifa” in the name, like “rose city antifa”.
In addition, there are many organizations that are not specifically antifascist, but would describe an opposition to fascism as part of their core beliefs. This includes a lot of media organizations.
Lastly, anyone with political views that do not support fascism are automatically anti-fascist.
The goal is to oppress all 3 categories of people.
The post answers that mate
Antifa is a concept (anti-fascism) people can support or not. Antifa isn’t people.
Well it’s a good thing America has a stellar track record on wars against ideas, e.g. drugs, terror, and Christmas. Let’s declare war on Opposition, there’s no way to lose that one
