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Sadly, this doesn’t work, as the “se” is what makes the “sh” sound. Otherwise “Sean” would be pronounced “Sawn.”
When men play these games do we call them sementics?
Huh-huh, “semen.”
The joke does work if Sean yans, though.
semen
shawmen
shmen
And there’s a beautiful fean walking across the lean.
In retrospect, peaning my guitar in order to afford a new amplifier wasn’t the best idea I ever had…
I work with a guy with the same name but it’s spelled Shone so… yones?
Envy: in my native languages every letter means one concrete sound no matter of the word or any other circumstances. I can pronounce correctly any word I see written, and can correctly write down whatever word I hear even if I hear it for the first time and don’t know its meaning.
Same (with few exceptions that are well documented and always applicable to every situation)
But names are still fucked, because they’re not translated. Example:
- Tomass
- Tomas
- Thomas
- Tuomas
Or the Shawn/Sean example in the comic
What language?
Ukrainian.
My guess: Serbian, Turkish or Italian
Nah Italians have letters that have different sounds depending on where they are placed. Don’t think that matches the description. Double letters as well.
The rules are strict on the relationship between writing and pronunciation, so you still know how to spell something
You don’t know which rule to use when you hear the word pronounced.
It does work the other way around.
Ukrainian or Lithuanian languages, for example, are written exactly how they are pronounced (excepr for the emphasis, but you can write with emphasis included)
There would never be confusion between “anuses” and “years”.
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The Ethiopian alphabet (abougida) has this feature, but it goes one step further. Every vowel consonant pair (aka every syllable) has it’s own symbol. That sounds like a lot of symbols, and it is, but the beauty of it is that the vowel sounds are just modifiers of the consonant. So you only have to memorize the consonant symbols and the modifiers and you can reduce drastically reduce the number of letters needed plus have a completely phonetic writing system.
Does your language still have different regional accents or does that end up getting smoothed/averaged out by the writing system?
It has. Some regions use local words that aren’t included in official vocabulary plus they love to misplace emphasis (we don’t mark it in written form). Not sure if it can be called “accent” though, more like “dialect”.
I had an English teacher in middle school who named her son Sean, pronounced like “seen,” and she always complain about how people always pronounced it like “Shawn.”
Personally, I think it’s a tad rude to name your child with an uncommon spelling as it’s just setting then up for a lifetime of minor annoyances. But to use a fairly common variant and insist on a non-standard pronunciation is far worse.
Man, that’s fucked up. I’m sorry, but that English teacher of yours is just a malevolent human being.
100% agree with your argument but I’ll never not see the name “Sean” and immediately think “Seen” rather than “Shawn”
Does someone remember the story about the one her mother wrote “La-Da”?
It’s obviously pronounced Ladashda…
. H E A V Y . R A I N . I N T E N S I F I E S .
Why not have numbers? I never understood the need for names in places like this. Fuck you need my name for? What if there’s more than one John in here? Give me a number and call it out when ready… jeez.
Just say that your name is Number 2.
A The Prisoner reference?
I work in a place that uses names, if I had to guess it’s probably because it’s more personal. People are bad enough at paying attention to hear their own name, I have very little faith in people responding to a randomly assigned number.
Also with phone in, online, and door dash et al. it might seem strange to use names for those, which we would need to because the person coming in isn’t going to know what number was assigned to the order, and only in the phone in scenario could we communicate that directly (online ordering could tell them but again, people are dumb, they won’t know).
Every fastfood here works with numbers, where’s the issue ? 🤷
I don’t know how it is in the states, but fast food places here give you a small beeper with a number on it, when your order is ready, it beeps/vibrates and you pick your order up. No one shouting names, no overhearing names, no losing attention when a device in your hand starts beeping/vibrating. The number on it serves as a secondary backup. I’ve not been in a place where name giving was required. Different culture I guess.
Around my parts in Scandinavia, the most used method is a number on your reciept and a screen where the number shows up when the order i ready. If someone isn’t paying attention to the screen, that’s on them, and they should feel bad. There’s no shouting names or number, and people don’t get the wrong order.
A civil system where I don’t have to share my name, I like it.
Never seen those for fast food here in the US. Sit down restaurants used to issue them to let you know when a table was ready, but that seems to have been replaced (at least in my limited experience) with asking for your number to text you. Which I’m sure is definitely the only way they’re using that number and they totally don’t keep it and sell the collected numbers off to data brokers later or anything.
They ask for your phone number ? that’s not alright
Butchers make numbers work somehow.
In Canada McDonalds uses numbers.
It’s probably supposed to make it more hip and personal. And the frequent complaints about misunderstandings are free marketing.
Sean Bean has entered the room.
Seen Bawn.
Bean, seen.
Bought the taw-shawt
He started as Shaun and adopted the Irish spelling for his stage name.
Why can’t they just assign order ID number like every other normal food service business?
Yes, just assign me a UUID please.
I have a non-English name and I honestly don’t know what to say when they ask for my name so I just pause for like 3 second then think of a random English name to use lol, cuz I doubt they can read a Pinyin name lol and don’t wanna make it awkward.
I placed an order at a restaurant where you have a name for the order, but you also have names for particular food items. The main name was Mario Mario. The food items were various SMB characters. I went to pick up the food in a Boo shirt and Mario baseball cap. I heard them talking about Mario’s last name being Mario and Luigi’s last name being the same. Anyway, I went over to pick up the order, they noticed my clothes, and started laughing. Good times. Anyway, I like using character names.
Hououin Kyouma works
I mad scientist, its so coool, you sonovabitch! 😎
Because people who have no real friends think it’s more “personal” to force a stranger to poorly read their name.
Maybe she meant Shaun?
Shaughn
I shouldn’t’ve posted that now some child is gonna get very unhappy once they hit puberty.
Shorn
Sean is such a weird pronunciation of Shawn.
If you’re curious: ‘Se’ in Irish is a ‘Sh’ sound. But technically just ‘Sean’ is ‘Shan’, which is the word for ‘old’. There has to be an accent mark to make it proper and a name.
‘Seàn’ is the name, as ‘Shawn’.
‘Sèan’ is ‘Shane’.
The Irish accent goes the other way.
Seán is anim dom: My name is Shaun/Shawn/Shaughan/Whatever other spelling pleases your eye or ear.
Translated to English, Seán is John.
I always, always am mystified when in a film someone says “that would be mister Schmidtt” and the other character just… writes the name down, no problem.
I spell my family name out loud 100% of the times, still get post from official businesses with weird ass spellings!
Derek Nippl-e
Shaun is the way
Sean, See awning.
Shawn, Shorning.
One of my coworkers is named Sean and I always refer to him as Seen. It is very funny to nobody except for me.
Saw it Happen on lunch break were they called a matt and 2 Matt’s came up. Then John same thing, then Greg also 2 ppl. Would have funny but use numbers!
I have a very common name. My Starbucks name is Bart.
