In the bodegas, bars and clubs of Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx, the mood was joyous – it was an emotional night

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    “I’ve been a DSA member for over 10 years,” said 40-year-old health department worker Will, at the Fort Greene party. “This just shows that our politics are not radical, that New Yorkers actually think what we believe is sensible, and maybe the rest of the country is ready for sensible, commonsense, Democratic socialism.”

    I doubt it.

    I still consider myself a democratic socialist. I left the DSA a few years ago but my ideal is still democratic socialism. I still believe in democratic socialism, but believing in something doesn’t make it true or viable. I think the chances of viability would increase significantly if a majority of Americans believed in it too, but that’s just not the case. Now, maybe that’s just because the American people have been conditioned by propaganda into opposing any form of socialism, and that may be true, but I don’t know how to overcome that.

    But while democratic socialism remains a relatively fringe ideology, I think that social democracy is much more mainstream and I think it can become much more popular again. And, unlike democratic socialism, social democracy has actually been implemented at a national level and has a good track record. It’s still capitalist, but at least it attempts to mitigate some of capitalism’s more harmful elements and provide a solid social welfare base for the country. Social democracy definitely seems much more viable, at least in the near term. Though, getting a majority of Americans to embrace social democracy again will probably still be a tough row to hoe, due to decades of entrenched right wing libertarian and neoliberal conditioning.

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      Compromising before ever throwing a punch? Advocating a move to the center? Giving up on your ideals for what someone has told you is more palatable to the worst voters in your country?

      People like you are the reason everyone hates democrats.

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        If I’m wrong then democratic socialist candidates should do well across the country in coming elections, so I would love to be wrong. We’ll just have to wait and see.

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        I can understand re-registering in a closed primary state so you can pick a canidate from a major party (it’s rare to see this party run national canidates), but like you can still donate and support them

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      When you don’t tell them what it’s called, the ideas are extremely popular among Americans. They’re just conditioned to be afraid of the S word.