California Governor Gavin Newsom holds an early edge over Vice President JD Vance among young male voters for the 2028 presidency, according to new polling from a Republican-affiliated firm.

The latest League of American Workers/TIPP survey, conducted October 22-28, shows that among young men, 38 percent would vote for Newsom compared to 33 percent for Vance.

The findings suggest that Newsom—a prominent Democratic voice—continues to outperform expectations with a demographic that has trended toward the GOP in recent years. The results come amid renewed debate within both parties over how to win back young men, a group increasingly seen as pivotal to future national elections.

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    If Newsom wins the nomination, he’ll probably win the general…

    But that means he’d get to appoint a neoliberal as DNC chair, and they’re sure as shit not going to let a progressive get the nom in 2032, Newsom would run again. Then he’d be out or name a new DNC chair again…

    And 2036 we won’t get a fair primary either.

    We can’t afford to go back

    I don’t care if you’re a lifetime green party voter, anyone that considers themselves left of the Dem party still needs to vote in Dem primaries to drag the party left.

    There aren’t even Green primaries. You lose nothing voting in the Dem primary, and are not obligated to anything in the general.

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      Americans are so brainwashed that they think Newsom is some kind of hard core left winger as opposed to the truth that he’s only slightly less social conservative than Hillary Clinton.

      He’s also very much a fiscal conservative. I don’t think the Prop 13 limited budgets in California really allow anyone to do anything major without years of congressional battles.

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        I mean, it makes sense…

        Billionaires own the media, but not the DNC anymore.

        That’s why Pritzker and Newsom’s names are constantly in the news. They can’t rig the big primary anymore, so they’re gonna spend the next three years acting like only neoliberals are doing anything, and they’re all super progressive.

        But they all have “experience” so if they were really progressive, wed already know.

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          Billionaires definitely own the DNC. Every single progressive has been treated like crap by the corporate wing of the party which at this point is still the majority.

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            You realize “the DNC” is just the chairperson right?

            There’s ~400 voting members who pick the chair, except when a Dem wins the presidential they go with the pick.

            So 2016 they fucked up and picked a shitty chair.

            2020 they went with the presidents pick.

            And 2024 they realized that wasn’t working and didn’t pick a neoliberal.

            Those ~400 people have turnover too. The ones who voted in February this year weren’t the ones who voted in 2016.

            Change can happen very quickly because of how it’s structured. We have a non biased chair for the first time in like 50 fucking years bro. Because Obama abandoned the DNC instead of appointing a progressive or at least someone unbiased

            Since the party put it’s fingers in the scale for Carter because even Jimmy Carter was further right than voters if his time wanted.

            Like, we won the war over the party months ago, and you’re like one of those Japanese soldiers that kept “fighting” on an island for decades because they never got the surrender order.

            The closest thing to pro-billionaire Martin’s ever said is:

            Yeah, we’ll take their money if they give it, but we won’t be biased for it.

            And yeah I know what your response will be “they’ll only give it if they get something!!!”

            Which logically…

            Means billionaires aren’t going to give to the DNC under Martin.

            Exactly what you want. Martin just said it diplomatically because it was during his campaign for chair, and he was making it clear that if billionaires stop giving, it’s not because he’s be rejecting their donations, it’s because they’d only give if it’s a bribe instead of a donation.

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        Great news!

        The DNC agrees with us now on that:

        Following years of pressure from progressive advocates, the Democratic National Committee’s resolutions panel on Tuesday unanimously approved a measure aimed at limiting dark money—undisclosed independent campaign contributions—in presidential primary elections.

        The resolution, which was introduced by Chair Ken Martin, was approved during the DNC’s summer meeting in Minneapolis. The measure calls for creating a panel tasked with pursuing “real, enforceable steps the DNC can take to eliminate unlimited corporate and dark money in its 2028 presidential primary process.”

        https://www.commondreams.org/news/dnc-dark-money-resolution

        Keeping that out of the primary, means the deciding factor is just who voters want, not who donors want.

        It’s not as easy as it sounds, and I fully get any hesitation or doubt that they’re “looking into it”, but shit man…

        It’s huge they’re even putting in a good faith effort to figure out how to do it and hold candidates accountable