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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has selected his daughter as his heir, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Thursday.
Kim Ju Ae - who is believed to be 13 - has in recent months been pictured beside her father in high-profile events like a visit to Beijing in September, her first known trip abroad.
The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.
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Look at North Korea, breaking down those gender boundaries in the male-dominated dictatorship world.
Finally, the people’s girlboss leader!
That photo makes me feel old - I remember when Kim Jong Un looked young and stupid, now he looks old and stupid
Exactly! When did he age that much? It’s crazy.
I suspect the last decade of dealing with Trump and Xi hasn’t been the easiest time of his life. Just look at before and after pics of normal US presidents. That job ages them a decade in 4 years
I was hoping the era of women leaders was going to be a little less fascist. Does anyone have a link to the article not behind a paywall?
What Thatcher taught us was that it’s acceptable for women to be in charge as long as they’re overtly callous.
I didn’t hit a paywall, but this archive link should work for you.
Diversity win! This up and coming dictator is a young woman!
More 👏🏼 female 👏🏼 dictators 👏🏼
- Neoliberals, probably
Try tankies
Can we call her a minority?
You can, but she might have you shot for it
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Let’s hope they don’t secretly have the protomolecule sample.
Eh if they did, I doubt they’d have long term patience to test validate and perfect a weapon before using it, they’d just dump it in the south and see what happens.
His sister is gonna coup that shit up.
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As she’s then effectively getting in line, would that be a coup queue? Seems to track for NoKo. 🤪
Kinda makes me wish one of them thought screaming was singing, then we could dub them “NoKo Oh-No”.
FWIW, the other thread I was fiddling with mentally was re: the term “chuffed” and its implied verb “to chuff” to create this headline: “Coup queue for NoKo chuff” 🤣
I hope she doesn’t get a cold, otherwise that would be a ‘coup queue cachoo’.
I am the walrus?
Shut the fuck up, Donny
Sorry, we’ve already assigned you the role of eggman.
I call the mighty Quin. 🤘🏻
Queoup
If the “p” is silent, is it also a homonym?
Or she is going to get executed
The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.
Coup what shit? This speculation seven layers deep.
Well there goes the legacy of terrible haircuts. Three generations of shite hair down the drain!
She hasn’t taken over yet. There’s still time!
Exhibit A:
Don’t underestimate her haircut styling skills!
We are about to see some of the most effective utiliseations of girl power in history
We are about to see Kim Jong Un outsource the country’s desperate need for overhaul to his own daughter to implement radical reforms so the country has a future, and then she will either succeed or more likely get coup’d and murdered horribly by her own relatives and generals and oligarchs who still run the country.
I’m sure Kimmy will be fine where he retires to though, likely it won’t be North Korea, that’s for sure.
He looks like shit for being in his early 40s. I wonder if there is something going on with his health and that’s why he is appointing a 13 year old heir. The article doesn’t elaborate on that but it says he “appears young and healthy.” He looks like he is about to pop. I don’t think I’d describe him as young or healthy looking.
Kim isn’t in the best of shape but he isn’t at Donald Trump levels of poor health.
As for naming his daughter the heir to the throne it could be she is the only legitimate child he has.
In terms of male relatives the only one of the Kim family that is not as old or older than him (and not dead) is Kim Han Sol, and if anyone is paying attention it’s obvious why he isn’t getting the throne.
Kim Han Sol
So close…
So close what?
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He’s almost 40 years younger than Trump, so I don’t think it’s comparable. I’m the same age as Kim and I know no one who is in as bad as shape as him (maybe one or two co-workers who are morbidly obese). There is nothing healthy about being 5’3” and 275 lbs.
Yes but it’s not “dude is going to croak any day now.”
Even more so as his status and position gives him access to the best medical care
I don’t know. Heart attacks are a real thing. Your 40s get weird with health stuff. I agree that I don’t think he is going to croak any day now, but it does seem like they are preparing for him to be gone. His father only lived to 60.
I don’t dispute in having a successor prepared for when the time comes. It’s just that for a monarchy it’s good policy to have an heir ready in the wings, otherwise you get a lovely power struggle.
In this case it would be between factions of the ruling elite that are die hard cultists and factions that didn’t drink the kool-aid and just want to stay in power.
Normally a population opposition would also be in the mix but unlike Venezuela and Iran NK seems to have taken care of that
Look what Obama looked like when he entered office and how he looked when he left. And i bet being at the top of North Korea, surrounded by people who whould absolutely love to acquire your position by all means would be… well… a bit more stressful.
surrounded by people who whould absolutely love to acquire your position by all means
You think the third generational decedent of a national hero is going to be toppled by his most fiercely loyal family friends?
If the Kim family could have been pushed out by coup within the military, the CIA would have financed that shit 40 years ago.
Why would they? There’s more power in having south Korea be an operating center in Asia, than overthrowing North Korea and allowing for possible reunification. Idk, seems like it would go against most of the CIAs goals that they usually have.
I remember just about every Kim not being very healthy. The jokes wrote themselves with Kim Jong-il.
Yep. And he died at 60. Younger Kim is on the same track.
Does he also have a giant tumor like his dad did?
I read a news article about that mentioned he was thrusted into power in his 20s so maybe he wanted to start introducing her to the system early.
I thouhgt he was in his early 40s like 10 years ago. Whoa!
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Democracy is when you select an heir to your throne.
Welcome President Baron Trump
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Would you consider the Netherlands or Denmark a democracy? Both have literal monarchies.
Constitutional Monarchy are very different and limited form of monarchy, where the monarch have very limited power or are simply there for ceremonial purpose. The king doesn’t command the parliament, and cannot make policy, and at most can suggest it.
I live in a country with constitutional monarchy and they mostly just there, occasionally making remark and have their opinions. They however still have the power to veto bill and reject project, but it happen very very rarely. They’re mostly there as religious leader and political weapon for some.
So to answer your question, yes, Netherlands and Denmark both practice constitutional monarchy, hence they’re still considered democracy.
Ok, now, can you conceive that the Kim family’s role is more representative as in a constitutional monarchy (such as that of my homeland of Spain) than it is de-facto monarchical power? I’m not saying that the DPRK’s parliament is democratically elected, I’m questioning whether we can, with the information at our disposal in the west, affirm that the politics of the DPRK are controlled by one particular family and not by, say, the cadres of their communist party.
Firstly, to say that Kim family is merely ceremonial mean you have to proof that someone else is running the show, that hatched all the plans, that have the final say. We don’t have that information. What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea, that rule and guide the country, that inherited the power from his father.
Of course, a king need a general and a treasurer, whether they are the one in control or not is not a known fact, and that will remained a mystery until someone close to them speak.
So yes, with the information the world have, we can safely say North Korea is run by a single family.
What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea
I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box
that rule and guide the country
This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?
I absolutely would not have described Queen Elizabeth as the most powerful person in the country at any time of her reign.
I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box
I can also say the same for all prime minister and president in country without monarch and with constitutional monarch. That is exactly what a leader of the country are. What is exactly your point here?
This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?
Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?
Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?
A society whose results don’t match those of a personal monarchic dictatorship. For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves. There’s no public healthcare, no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.
In the DPRK, there’s widespread public transit infrastructure with trains and trams, public education for everyone, public healthcare, good workers’ rights relative to their level of development, people-centered urban planning, collectivized agriculture… You wouldn’t expect any of these things from an absolutist monarchy.
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Yes, we can definitively prove that the NK political theater is run by the Kim family. Watch any video of their “congress” meeting, and it’s just a group of NPCs clapping mindlessly to everything Kim Jong il says.
“Political power comes from televised claps”
-No serious political analysis ever
Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t make you look smarter.
Your entire knowledge of the DPRK comes from western propaganda, I’m not the obtuse one here. Tell me how many times you’ve gone “actually, let’s see” and tried to read something about the country? You’re analyzing the political structure of a country based on 3 news shots from western sources.
And how much political power do the monarchs have?
And how much political power does the Kim family really have? How much do we really know about the DPRK?
Hm, how much Power does a family have that is venerated like a god and that can order the assassination of family members on foreign soil? Surely the Kim’s and the Danish monarch are the same
Anyone with enough money can order assassination of anyone on any foreign soil. That isn’t really an argument.
Any president can order the assassination of people on foreign soil, look at the US under Biden assassinating tens of thousands of Palestinians in Israel, or what happened to Lady Dee at the behest of the royal family of England.
But I’m not familiar with what you’re describing in particular, could you please gimme a source to read on?
Biden was the elected president of the US. He held power over political decisions, just like the Kims, but unlike the Danish Monarch. Kind of defeating your own argument here.
Lady Dee theories are interesting, haven’t read much about them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Kim_Jong-nam Kim Jong-nam was a potential rival for the Throne and got killed for it. The Kims do hold the power in the DPRK.
From your own article:
It is widely believed that Kim Jong-nam was murdered on the orders of Kim Jong Un.
So, it is not factually known who really killed him (rather on behalf of whom), but that’s enough to you to claim absolute power by the Kim family?
I could mention the current old king of Spain (Juan Carlos the First) murdering his brother, does that prove absolute power by the Spanish monarchy?
Also funny:
At the time of his death, Kim’s backpack contained approximately $100,000 in cash
I wonder where he would find that kind of American money
The onion did this bit 20 years ago
