We’re adding the ability to customize this in the upcoming release, but I’m wondering what people think would be a good default.
The 4 pieces of showable/hideable info are: Upvotes, Downvotes, Score, and Upvote %.
In Jerboa, I had a temporary default (until the next lemmy release), of Score + Upvote %, but people seem to dislike this a lot.
I’ll check back on this in a few days to see the result.
I honestly love the way Alexandrite does the interface on Lemmy.world. I used photon for awhile too, but the way Alexandrite does voting made a positive overall experience that was more pleasant long term, (a.Lemmy.world & p.lemmy.world). Alexandrite simply ignores the down vote count and displays the total. Overall negativity is not clearly seen unless the count goes below zero.
Long term this makes a more positive overall experience across the spectrum of emotions in real life, especially for someone struggling through disability. The only way I would change this is to add a negative vote view in the … extras.
I think it should display only the score. But when I hover with my mouse it should show the upvote and downvote count.
The same goes to the mobile version, but instead of hovering with a mouse I can hold my finger on the score and the app displays the upvote/downvote count.
I like a more simple and clean approach, I believe this helps bring less tech-savvy users to lemmy.
Intuitively, showing both the upvote and downvote count would display the full information. The total and the percentage can be derived from that (and yea humans are bad at maths but you’ll be able to estimate well enough probably).
I also like showing both counts separately so that a +50 -10 post doesn’t appear equivalent to a +100 -60 post.
Could you perhaps show some screenshots of how the different options would look? Preferably on both mobile and desktop. I think that would make it a lot easier to choose.
It’s also an easy way to show new users one basic front-facing feature on Lemmy that is different from Reddit - which is a good idea on its own, but especially because Reddit used to display upvotes/downvotes this way and then removed it entirely, probably for manipulative reasons.
It’s good to be able to customize, but better to have the default option be an improvement over the alternative. Even more-so when the change isn’t jarring.
I remember when reddit removed the simple upvote + downvote and added “vote-fuzzing” and upvote percentage. Everyone hated it, but there was no alternative to switch to.
Also when YouTube removed the dislike vote counter to protect against corporations being ratioed.
My vote goes to simple displaying of upvotes and downvotes separately, with no total or percentage.
I prefer seeing up vote and down vote counts separately and nothing else.
I think score, then in smaller less noticeable text, upvotes and downvotes. I don’t think upvote % adds much value as you have the information to calculate it already.
My original motivation was trying to limit information overload, and go from 3 pieces of score info, down to 2. This will all be configurable, but I’d like the default to be really simple.
Difficult to say until we’ve seen it in action for a while. Could we trial each for a while and then ask us again?
Up and down preferably, anything else is just worse.
Otherwise overridable by user preference would be great.
Upvotes and downvotes, but also add the YouTube lightsaber which shows the ratio?
All I want is that a cold color like blue is not be used for Upvote. Reddit’s colors are better.
The colors I’d rather not hard-code, but have them be theme-dependent.
You are right
Anything but upvote % as default, because many instances disable downvotes.
We’re still working on it, but we’ll add logic into the front ends to make sure these settings can’t conflict.
Up + Down. That way you can’t use trolling/harassment to sway the perception of a post.
Put it this way: Do you want the nazis who downvote everything left of Hitler to have any sway over a conversation?
Is this a lemmy-ui and thus a client issue or a lemmy issue?
It will affect all lemmy apps, if they support this setting.
If the server’s going to enforce this then I feel like the default should be total up and down, as all the others can be calculated from those two numbers by the clients. Other methods I would foresee be used by instances that somewhat wants to hide or fuzz the numbers, so that’d be an opt-in thing that defaults to maximum transparency.
Its a user-specific setting, not a server setting. And this is just a preference for the default, it’ll still be configurable.
Up+down. Can’t say I’m a fan of the %
Yeah, I was confused about what it was (I thought it was some indication of how fresh the comment was for sorting purposes). A percent isn’t interesting when most comments have like 5 votes or whatever, and it’s still not that interesting even if there are more.
1)Big score with up/downvote at the side, and also the ability to see the votes for everyone.
Or
2)Big score and the ability to see the votes for everyone
I’m not really sure what any of this means but if something has one upvote and one down vote it should show that?
