?! and this is supposed to be good news? no change against the narcissist, sexual abuser, traitor, convicted career criminal trying to squat in the seat of power that controls one of the most lethal nuclear arsenals?
are you kidding me?! this is what the Democrats are accepting? anyone proclaiming this as positve news is as delusional as the magas, perhaps more so.
I mean when you’ve got an existential election and the options are a barely functional geezer who will just do whatever his staff suggest and stupid Hitler your choice is going to be a forgone conclusion. It’s not a choice between two shitty candidates, it’s a choice between one shitty candidate and literal fascism. You either want fascism or you don’t. All these “undecided” voters are either hilariously ignorant, closet fascists, or both.
I don’t believe undecided voters even exist. Like. No. Seriously.
This is the most polarized election in US history. we know both the candidates, we know how they did during their tenure as president. we’ve all got our opinion on it. The only question is, really, “how many voters are going to show up”- and more specifically, “which side loses the most voters?”
Honestly, there was never a positive upside for the debate. It’s just an opportunity to give them more soundbites or images of biden looking… well, old. (and give trump a bunch of one-line zingers. his base doesn’t care about the truth, just that he ‘owns the libs’)
This whole issue is about replacing the shitty candidate with one that is less shitty because the other guy winning is literal fascism. It shouldn’t be a close race!
We have literal fascism right now, we have for decades
Yeah, where was all this “The president can just have you killed without due process!” outrage when Obama had a Denver born 16yo citizen killed without due process? Neolibs haven’t held this party to account since the 90’s, and are now surprised (or unconcerned) that it’s become a social club that cares more about maintaining internal control than winning elections.
Lmao bruh.
You’re a weird mixture of disillusioned and naiive if you think that
the narcissist, sexual abuser, traitor, convicted career criminal trying to squat in the seat of power that controls one of the most lethal nuclear arsenal'ssupporters were going to be swung by rational debate over ideas.If only every American was well educated they might see…
no one is trying to swing them - they are completely lost to rationality. mobilization is the goal and, I can tell you, there is zero fire out there to mobilize an anti-trump turnout.
many may vote for the genocide enabler over the actual clown-fascist, but we are fucked as a country when, in the face of blatant authoritarianism, the best we can put up is biden. un-fucking-real.
Yes, good news. The debate narrative is done. There is 4 months of campaigning to go.
Agreed. If bad debates ended campaigns then Trump would never have been elected.
Did you watch the debate?
Yes. It’s excellent news. There’s a reason people are panicking. Yes Trump is all of those things. Yes the debate was that bad.
So in other words, Biden is still losing.
It’s too soon for polling to reflect anything, re-check in 1-2 weeks.
As of right now:
Michigan - Trump +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/Pennsylvania - Trump +4
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/Wisconsin - Tied, Biden +2, Trump +2-3 Tossup
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/Georgia - Trump +5 to +10
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/georgia/Arizona - Trump +6 to +10
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/arizona/Nevada - Trump +3
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/nevada/New Mexico - Biden +1 to +2
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/new-mexico/North Carolina - Trump +3 to +8
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/north-carolina/Minnesota - Biden +2 to Trump +1 Tossup
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/minnesota/So, really, bad news for Biden across the board except for New Mexico which is just freshly getting polling data.
Fuck.
“What we are learning is that the president’s age was already priced into the decision-making process before the debate, and the debate itself did not cause any substantial reconsideration of the voters’ decision-making process,” Garin said.
So if we replaced him with someone younger then we could reverse that pricing in? I would like that please.
Independent polls before and after the debate showed that large majorities of the country do not think Biden is up for the job or has the mental competence to carry it out.
The debate was supposed to fix that! Status quo was not the needed result!
Look, look guys, we’re only slightly losing!
Showing “no change” would be a great result, if Biden were already ahead in the polls. But, he’s not. Right now, Democrats seem to be stuck in a Sunk Cost Fallacy. Sure the other option is unknown and scary. But, when the known situation is “you’re fucked”, the “unknown and scary” starts to look less scary.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The results, described in a memo by campaign pollster Geoff Garin of Hart Research, were circulated with the intent of calming Democrats, who fear that Biden’s stumbles could undermine his candidacy.
The campaign is hoping to head off any high-profile defections in the aftermath of a performance where the president often stumbled verbally and appeared to lose his train of thought.
Garin said the weekend online poll showed that Trump holds a narrow lead in a head-to-head contest, similar to the one he held in a survey conducted in May.
But large majorities of those voters continue to support him in trial heats, and Garin said they responded favorably when shown a video of Biden’s more energetic performance on the trail Friday in North Carolina, which the campaign has used in a television ad.
Biden’s team had pushed for the debate as an early opportunity to show the president’s command of the job, but that strategy backfired given a performance where his speech often meandered or trailed off.
The Biden campaign poll of 1,805 registered voters was conducted Saturday and Sunday in seven battleground states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
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