• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Yep, but those who resign for moral reasons will be more likely to take actual actions to protest/stop what’s happening

    No. They won’t. Or, to be more blunt, the people who would actually be useful won’t. Because they are the ones who understand the world isn’t Call of Duty and a single guy with a pistol isn’t actually going to Jack Bauer his way through an entire armed escort.

    The military will have a hard time recruiting competent people

    They already do. That is why the military is dumb as a door knob and full of the kind of people who just want an excuse to shoot some folk whether they are brown or not.

    This will then trickle down, and suddenly, you have officers who have been O-3s for just a couple of years being promoted to O-4 rather than waiting longer and gaining experience.

    Oh, well then. That will solve everything.

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      The ASVAB was pretty basic when I took it. Fortunately, a health condition at the time kept me from basic.

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      13 hours ago

      Breathe. We will get through this, and how is a question worth considering, as the commenter above was doing before your sweaty takedown.

      If you need to share this burden of despair with someone, my DMs are open. Spreading it among comrades is not OK.

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        19 hours ago

        We convince officers and other respected leaders to coup at the right time at the right signal.

        But we also accept that the Grunts and dumbasses are gonna dumbass. Maybe you can get like an E-8 or E-9 on our side but don’t give much effort to E-3 or E-5.

        But sitting around hoping that the military just magically appears on our side (that leans hard into Libertarianism at best and outright far right hooo rah at worst) is dumb.

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          17 hours ago

          I’m addressing an instance of doomerism. Participation of current or former military in the rebellion occupies my thoughts far less than that, currently.

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            17 hours ago

            Doomerism on the correct contexts is correct.

            We shouldn’t expect a military coup on this issue. The vast majority of soldiers will take the side of Police and ICE on this issue and proudly stand by them.

            Doomerism here allows us to focus our efforts elsewhere, where it’d be more fruitful to strike back vs Trump.

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              You’re describing pragmatism, a solutions-oriented mindset.

              I’m referring to left’s problem with edgy despair evangelists suffering from a deliberately propagated fascist contagion that must be recognized and treated rather than allowed to spread.

              Why? Because it deactivates would-be activists (including, for example, voters who had the chance to prevent this fascist takeover). It is not harmless. It must be addressed.

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              15 hours ago

              It is not even that they “will” take the side of fascism. They already have at every step of the way.

              We can sit thinking warm and cheery thoughts. Or we can think about what it will mean to survive for people who aren’t privileged enough to be a cishet white guy without any history of giving a shit about other human beings.