As President Donald Trump viciously attacked his perceived political foes, he whipped up boos from the gathered troops directed at California leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom.
I’m genuinely curious to what extend the societal divide extends into the armed forces. How can can there be trust among soldiers in combat situations if they are diametrically opposed on fundamental things like this.
Opposite statements. Either they follow orders or they are loyal to the constitution. Can’t do both right now.
I can’t fathom the industrial amounts of pure propagandium that Americans must have been huffing to think the military will ever be on their side. Blind and unconditional obedience is literally the only way militaries can function properly and everything about them is organized to promote that.
US military apologists (even before Trump) will say “but soldiers are legally obligated to follow the constitution first and must refuse unlawful orders” like Abu Ghraib didn’t happen in my lifetime. We all know that 90 % of soldiers will wipe themselves with the original copy of the declaration of independence if Trump orders them to. And those that refuse will be dishonorably discharged, or worse.
Hey it could be worse, you could be the jackass who named an area Mentone “beach” here in San Bernardino, fun fact it’s not a fucken beach. Forest falls is more of a beach.
You can have beaches pretty far inland all it since all a beach is is some sand on the shore of a water feature. The problem is that the water feature didn’t really have anything that could be called a beach, which is funny cause some spots along Green Spot practically right next store do have what I’d call a beach.
The divide absolutely exists. There is a lot of conditioning for following orders and working as a team. That doesn’t erase conflicting ideologies, beliefs, or even personality conflict. At the extreme the military will remove outliers from the military, but at the individual level you learn who you trust and who you can rely on. Then you do what you can to mitigate those who you don’t trust.
Militaries all over the world also have a long history of killing their own people for not fitting whatever the group around them wants. Sometimes for justifiable reasons, like incompetent leaders likely to get their subordinates killed. Other times for things like someone being uncomfortable with blatant war crimes.
There is nothing magical or special about the military. They just have more weapons. So the solutions are violent more often than the average office job.
I’m genuinely curious to what extend the societal divide extends into the armed forces. How can can there be trust among soldiers in combat situations if they are diametrically opposed on fundamental things like this.
I’ve had people on here assure me that it’s impossible, soldiers follow orders and are loyal to the constitution. Sure buds
Opposite statements. Either they follow orders or they are loyal to the constitution. Can’t do both right now.
I can’t fathom the industrial amounts of pure propagandium that Americans must have been huffing to think the military will ever be on their side. Blind and unconditional obedience is literally the only way militaries can function properly and everything about them is organized to promote that.
US military apologists (even before Trump) will say “but soldiers are legally obligated to follow the constitution first and must refuse unlawful orders” like Abu Ghraib didn’t happen in my lifetime. We all know that 90 % of soldiers will wipe themselves with the original copy of the declaration of independence if Trump orders them to. And those that refuse will be dishonorably discharged, or worse.
I would like to speak to some of those
cretinsmoronsdumbassesfolks regarding some beach front property located in Kansas…Spectacular views…
🙄 🤦♀️ 🖕 💩
Technically Kansas has beach front property, rivers and lakes have beaches. Kansas is lacking oceanfront property though.
Source: I am a Californian who gets impressed by a puddle of water, I know what a body of water looks like and the features common to them.
Sorry, my bad…
Was, of course, thinking “oceanfront” but stupidly typed “beach front” instead… 🤦♀️ 🙄
Hey it could be worse, you could be the jackass who named an area Mentone “beach” here in San Bernardino, fun fact it’s not a fucken beach. Forest falls is more of a beach.
WTF that’s like 50-75 miles inland…
You can have beaches pretty far inland all it since all a beach is is some sand on the shore of a water feature. The problem is that the water feature didn’t really have anything that could be called a beach, which is funny cause some spots along Green Spot practically right next store do have what I’d call a beach.
Even so, what happens when it’s impossible to do both?
The divide absolutely exists. There is a lot of conditioning for following orders and working as a team. That doesn’t erase conflicting ideologies, beliefs, or even personality conflict. At the extreme the military will remove outliers from the military, but at the individual level you learn who you trust and who you can rely on. Then you do what you can to mitigate those who you don’t trust.
Militaries all over the world also have a long history of killing their own people for not fitting whatever the group around them wants. Sometimes for justifiable reasons, like incompetent leaders likely to get their subordinates killed. Other times for things like someone being uncomfortable with blatant war crimes.
There is nothing magical or special about the military. They just have more weapons. So the solutions are violent more often than the average office job.