• wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
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    Pish posh you and your writey stick. We, the scientists are just as good as sciencing as we ever have been. (More money please)

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    “We’ll show all those pointy headed smarty pants who’s boss!! We’re taking over!”

    – MAGA mouth breathers

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    And the NY Times helped. Carrying water for war criminals lost the dems the election. Heck of a job, NY Times.

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    America is likely unique among superpowers, as it is INTENTIONALLY trying to commit suicide. Other empires throughout time died from disaster, neglect, and “fuck that guy”, but never quite in this fashion.

    America has no reasonable excuse for what it did to itself, and will be a case study for millennia to come.

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      It’s also speed running with destroying itself. Although the signs had been there for a few decades now, the way it went down with trump was just amazingly fast and interesting in a morbid way

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        It would be kinda neat if Summoning Salt did a mockumentary about the Trumpian Speedrun. Maybe in collaboration with BobbyBrocolli.

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    I didn’t have this on my bingo card when i was growing up. I was told we were the science superpower and the best country in the world.

    Now you realize they were all lies.

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    Guess we have to recommend kids who want to do real science in their future to learn Chinese or Korean.

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    A healthy, well educated population which feels safe and secure is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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    After years of giving a platform to climate change denialism, transphobic fearmongering, pearl clutching over too much woke at liberal colleges, both-sideing the efficacy of vaccines and indulging in Covid conspiracy nonsense, the NYT has finally achieved its goal.

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          I used to wonder how Lysenko pulled all of that off. Like, they were backward days in a backward country, and the whole world was still just kind of getting the hang of science. But now, here’s RFK Jr who doesn’t even believe in germs, filling our science administration with lackeys, half the country cheering him on, and I’m thinking that university grant departments are going to be getting Political Officers soon.

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            half the country cheering him on

            Half seems like a vast overestimation. Most of the people around me are checked out and get uncomfortable when politics comes up. Go strike up a conversation with a stranger, ask them about current events and what they think is going wrong. More than any other thing happening, the price of groceries is what’s actually on their mind.

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            It was all politics, just as it is now. People already very much knew how to conduct proper scientific endeavors, but the Communist Party wasn’t going to do anything so “bourgeois” as practice actual science.

            I’ve long thought of Republicans talking about “true conservatism” sounding almost exactly like the Communists in their delusions, now we see the culmination of their ridiculous ideology and their efforts to inflict it on everyone else.

            They now have their very own Lysenko. Hopefully it doesn’t get to the execution of Bobby Brainworm’s opponents:

            The official support emboldened Lysenko and gave him and Prezent free rein to slander any geneticists who still spoke out against him. After Lysenko became head of the Soviet Academy of Agricultural Sciences, classical genetics began to be called “fascist science”[28] and many of Lysenkoism’s opponents, such as his former mentor Nikolai Ivanovich Vavilov, were imprisoned or executed, although not on Lysenko’s personal orders.[29][22]

            The sheer insanity did not confine itself to only genetics, either. Keep in mind this was in the mid-20th century, FFS. Killing who knows how many millions as a result…

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    Yeah, but we got to own the libs. Are we not “great”, again?

    Also, outlets like the New York Fucking Times get to pretend to just float above it all, being “objective” in their reporting, because - say it with me - “both sides”.

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      We definitely are something again. The hate for the mere mention of “progressive” in this country is baffling. Like a toddler that doesn’t want to grow up.

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        It’s especially stupid because we tend to poll progressive on the issues. And yet we keep getting regressive policy.

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      America gave away scientific dominance when we let corporations write patent law.

      American taxpayers pay 160 billion every god damn year for “science”. Which is almost always grant money to billion dollar corporations who then gouge the very people who paid for it.

      It’s not just a shite healthcare system, every layer is a grift.

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        American taxpayers pay 160 billion every god damn year for “science”. Which is almost always grant money to billion dollar corporations who then gouge the very people who paid for it.

        Not even close to true, Most of the money was spent at universities doing research and training PhDs. This was the number one driver of the US economy for innovation and it returned hundreds of thousands of high tech jobs.

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          You’re getting closer. Where are these tech jobs it “returned”? Dot-coms understaffed by underpaid minions fearing the next strategic lay-off and hoping this sprint will move the project forward so some other group can package it for sale to the very people who funded that thesis already? Those jobs?

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            Calm down Francis, hundreds of biotechs in Boston and Stanford areas, the guys who came up with a COVID vaccine in weeks. The algorithm guys went to Silicon Valley because America values post doctoral Fellows right with trash collectors, while lawyers and frat boys on Wall street take all the money for shuffling paper.

            With the end of the NIH, because some baby got insulted by reality in 2020, we will see no new drugs from 2030 onward. Zero. That will end US domination in pharma and pivot the world to buy from Asia, yet again.

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              And the COVID vaccine was only possible because someone was working on MRNA vaccines for decades before that. It was not made in weeks if that knowledge was not there it wouldn’t have been possible.

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            Maybe they meant biotech and physical engineering jobs, instead of algorithm engineers for the big consumer data collectors?

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    Well the country was colonized by religious nutjobs that didn’t like the rise of intellectualism and enlightenment in Europe so this is rather more of a return to form.

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      That is a gross simplification. We’re the first people here great people? Absolutely not! But to boil them down to one zinger is very dishonest, at best. And remind me what was going down in Europe around that time? Oh, the church was murdering people that didn’t prescribe to their very specific belief structure, including scholars?

      Here’s some good key words for you to try searching the next time you’re making shit up about that time period.

      Hasbergs

      Fredrick V

      Matthias

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        To be fair the pilgrims were offered sanctuary in other countries first and then got mad that everyone wasn’t exactly like them. That said a lot of the other initial colonizers were people being outright evicted from their home countries for non-religious reasons.

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        Hasbergs

        Habsburgs?

        Fredrick V

        Who? There were lots of European monarchs of that name and number

        Matthias

        Who? It’s a pretty common name.

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        You’re right. They were also a bunch of genocidal hypocrites who, “believed all men were created equal” yet enslaved multiple continents while raping their way across it

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          who, “believed all men were created equal”

          Who claimed to believe

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    I think united states is envious of chairman Mao and wants to have their own cultural revolution too. Already had the military parade that outshone that of President Xi. Now have to outdo him in killing academics and intellectuals.

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      I think they view the downsides as temporary pain to achieve an end goal, which is an ethnostate for white people. Their philosophy hasn’t been under the table at all, they say societies which benefit only one race (and obviously falsely, one set of beliefs), are better than those which have internal strife. All of this is laughable, since Israel has achieved as close to an ethnostate as we’ve seen, and yet they’re unsustainable.

      These people have failed upwards their entire lives, so they all feel confident that in the event of failure, they have the capital to smash and grab before the end using insider information. They’re the worst humans on earth.

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        I mean, it’s probably true. Those tapes almost certainly exist and Putin has means to get them. But also, yeah, almost certain is not a fact. This is one of those cases where citing can only reduce the credibility of a statement by pretending there needs to be something more definitive than, “well, obviously.”

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          There were at least 3 beyond highly likely sources for the concealed tapes:

          Seeing how Putin is very adept at working in shaded circles it’s very reasonable to assume he now is in possession of a copy.
          Not even unthinkable that epstein sold/gave putin a copy himself when he went there when Trump also had regular personal dealings in moscow.

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            There’s a much simpler way, Trump has been visiting Russia since the 80s. Their government could have just set it up when he was over there and filmed it.

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            If Putin would control Trump then the billionaires would force an impeachement. They wouldn’t let Russia and China take their power.

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          Yes actually, I would fucking love a source — finally something that can be used to nail his ass to an upside down cross.

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          No. But if we are going to talk about Russia having tapes of trump again 9 years after the last time, I’d like more concrete sources than a shitposting sub, or a Steel Dossier.