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    If non-American politicians in the west had any backbone whatsoever, they would be taking actions to diplomatically & economically isolate the US much like North Korea or Russia, making it clear that the world will not tolerate a fascist America.

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    Hi, mod here. Please post links from the original source rather than link aggregator sites. That helps everyone understand where the information is coming from. This article is originally from Huffington Post, for example.

    No action will be taken at this time, but we appreciate your help in the future keeping this community healthy and transparent!

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    9 hours ago

    The veil is fully lifted from these absolutely violent nazi goblins trying to cosplay as news hosts

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    Funny how its all clutched pearls over political violence over people not falling to their knees and weeping for Kirk…

    but suddenly its applause and praise for physically assaulting their political enemies.

    Man, if I didnt know any better, I’d think these right wingers were hypocrites completely lacking in anything approaching integrity!

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      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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        i dont even think its that enlightened anymore.

        Simply " We must always be the victim, always. No matter what. Even when we are the one responsible for all the attacks and violence, it must always be the lefts fault for victimizing us"

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    Why is it ok for rightwing figures to openly call for violence?.

    Until the rest of society stops making an exception for rightwing people we are fucked.

    For one, adults act like kids are too stupid to experience nihilism about the permission we give ONLY to certain people to openly call for violence at the highest level and then panic when said kids turn “mysteriously” to simplistic hateful ideologies that are less dishonest about the reality of societal collapse happening around them.

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      12 hours ago

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

    • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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      We’re entering all-out cultural war. The divide between left and right is irreparable and inconsolable, thanks to Mr. “No more wars”

      The right is angry that the left doesn’t feel sympathy for their favorite dead Nazi and will use every tool they can to shut it down, but will then turn around and praise actual political violence against anyone left of Goebbels. The left dreams of existing as a developed, functioning society but has to put up with a violent narcissistic ex in the same apartment who blames them every time they punch another hole in the wall (“look what your trans friend made me do!”). Centrists think the abuser and the victim just “have to talk it out” and will turn a blind eye to continued abuse. There’s no coming back from this divide, we’re so fucked as a species

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        This is rather generous to Democrats and does not give them enough credit for how much they have failed America in all of this.

        The same people are still in charge and will fail us again if they get a chance which apparently they will. Unwilling and unable to be popular enough. Their reason for being lies and crushing any popular reformers that spring up.

        Not like an abused wife at all. Like a couple of dirty cops playing a good cop bad cop routine.

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            Great advice, let us wait until it’s too late to do anything about it so these guys are in charge and 2028! Gavin Newsom here we come! Do you seriously not get the situation we are in?

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              All you’re going to do is get another Nazi in office by encouraging people sto sit at home just like happened last time

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                So it is our fault for not believing hard enough! Don’t let any number of half wits convince you you have a sensical argument here. Any group of reasonable people would ridicule you to your face.

                And I scoff at it as well. We knew what the Republicans were, yet they were allowed to run as status quo three presidential elections in a row, offering zero real reform and more plutocratic rot while Republicans promised retribution to the rich that are ass fucking us without our consent.

                What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Seriously, you should rethink your sources of information if you believe that at this time. Like holy shit.

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                  I didn’t read this. I’m so done with BoTh SiDeS. It’s precisely why fascism took this country.

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      Until the rest of society stops making an exception for rightwing people we are fucked.

      Society isn’t; they are. Society (read: people) is just too feckless to do anything about it.

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        I think this moment is typified specifically by societies collapsing from their political centers becoming too divorced from reality, policy and rationality to identify the difference between a peaceful leftwing movement on one hand desperately ringing the alarm bells and on the other hand open calls for political violence and terrorism by the rightwing.

        If the center continues to blindly follow fascism because it is more palpable to them than actually taking care of people there isn’t really anything leftists can do but hope there is a limit that exists to all of this.

        The crux of the problem is centrists lazily allowing rightwing movements to be openly violent because it is easier than addressing how existential of a problem this is for a peaceful society. Centrists consider it divisive to address the violence of the rightwing, and this cowardice will undoubtedly destroy us.

        Another way of stating this is that the center of societies have allowed the social contract to be shattered by the rightwing while instead focusing on tone-policing the left in its rhetoric trying to warn about it.

        Centrists would rather keep normalizing catastrophe as part of life than try to avoid it or mitigate it with bold, visionary moves. Most centrists I have met seem disgusted in some subconscious way by leftwing ideas at a superficial level, even if you can get them to admit a leftwing idea is valid or promising they will fundamentally always recoil from the concept of actually implementing leftwing ideas, at a basic level this is just not something many centrists can stomach it seems.

        The reason? The realm of political possibility has been defined by the rich to fundamentally exclude leftism, thus there is a necessary imaginative resistance to applying our vision to denied horizons that is utterly invisible to the centers of most societies I am speaking about here. Centrists don’t seem to question the fact that they themselves have acquiesced to a full 360 degree horizon of only rightwing futures no matter what direction we head.

        As a rule it feels like centrists see practical policy that has been thoroughly combed over by experts as naive, wishwashy and handwaving when leftists do it. However when rightwing fascists spout violent nonsense they literally just came up with that second, well we outa here em out right? We should at least try it to be fair right?

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          Alongside your comments, it could also be that our default position is established in capitalism. I volunteer with my town, and I often hear, “We should run this town like a business.”

          …No. It’s not. It has no profit potential. It’s about the service & cost to run it each year.

          However, for my colleagues, there’s often this reckoning. “What do you mean? I run businesses. I know how to do this.” No, you don’t. Because you’re used to cutting corners. You’re used to outsourcing at maybe a more expensive cost. You’re used to racing to the bottom.

          Government is NOT about being a capitalistic business. This country defaults to “That’s the right way to do it.” when they fundamentally don’t understand how the problem and goals are different. It’s very “everything is a nail,” and the hammer is “for profit models.”

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    Yes unleashing the awesome power of the State security services on Rival opposition lawmakers will work out great for the country thanks Laura! I I’m sure she will not get tossed aside for some younger more vicious cunt soon either. Every single one of these right wing influencers is going to be replaced with somebody more hardcore.

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    Never permit spin on this.

    Understand and lock in what Republicans actually are.

    When this regime falls, there will be remnants of the GOP, that will have decades worth of work to repair their brand name.

    But never forget what they actually are.

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        Yeah, not American but I do see a lot of this “when this is over” attitude as if the passing of time alone will resolve anything. These people don’t care about the rules. There will be no justice because they control the justice department. “Wake up, Sheeple” has never felt more relevant.

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          The Germans and French that waited for “when this is over” had to wait for their country to be conquered/liberated by an outside force. Any Americans thinking they can just wait this out might reflect on what their neighborhood might look like after being conquered/liberated.

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            Alone, we’re all pussies. We need to show strength in numbers. I say “we” because Canada’s sliding towards the same bullshittery.

            The oligarchs need something to fear again. It’s the only thing that’s ever worked in history.