I believe the results mainly reflect the anti-immigration sentiment.
I’m a naturalized immigrant in Germany myself and don’t understand the trend at all. I imagine that supporting certain immigration groups might stretch the social support system in the country, but it’s the faulty of the system itself, no? I get the vibe that it’s the immigrants who are the problem, and that we are somehow worse humans than the natives and set our minds on causing problems just for the fuck of it.
Can someone explain why immigration is a problem for Europe? It seem to be the good old xenophobia… Or maybe I’m biased.
it’s a “problem” just about everywhere right now, I’m in Canada and the anti-Indian rhetoric is through the roof here.
why? Because we’re all collectively broke. If there wasn’t an immigration issue, and we were still all collectively broke, then the blame would fall on the backs of people even poorer than us.
When the cost of living is unaffordable everywhere, when there’s no housing anywhere, when jobs are hard to obtain the defacto fall back crutch is…blame the immigrants. History doesn’t repeat but it sure as fuck rhymes.
The billionaire backed right wing takeover playbook is international - not just the US. Billionaires are a plague on democracies everywhere.
russian backed afd party too.
Exactly! So many people fall in this Russian trap, not even understanding that it’s only goal is division and destabilization.
I don’t understand why the billionaires think they are somehow off limits or immune to social chaos. They will always be surrounded by the working class, since someone needs to cook their food, wash their clothes, and raise their kids.
They are creating compounds, underground bunkers, they have islands and mega yachts, and they are even trying to get into space. They know what their plans are, and they know it will get really, really bad at some point, and they do not plan on being among the rest of us when that happens.
Yeah, I realize that, but someone still has to put gas in their helicopter and deliver their caviar.
Never underestimate the arrogance of billionaires. They get surrounded by sycophants that inflate their egos to near godly proportions.
How!? Where are these numbers coming from? In Germany of all places!?
Hmm, the guy who manipulated his stock price to make himself the richest man in the world and fixed the election for Trump also supported AfD. Surely it’s a coincidence
There is money required for running campaigns and advertisements and making deals.
What it won’t do is magically populate a country with fascists, supremacists, and other extreme right wing types. Those would have to already be around.
They didn’t kill them all in 1945 you know.
You are going to protest that they 've learned from that. They just learned not to say the word Nazi just like they learned not to oppose Jews instead of opposing genocide.
Just like we didn’t take care of business in 1865, and they quietly got their strength back and returned 150 years later.
Evil is patient.
German here.
Many Germans firmly believe the AfD is not a nazi party. Many Germans defend them because the AfD tells them what they want to hear: “It’s not your fault that you haven’t struck it big yet in your life, it’s the insert minority/marginalized group of the month’s fault.” They truly believe that the AfD will help them.
It’s the same obvious, fascist playbook that they pulled in the US and people eat it up while laughing at your idiot president.
It’s insane. People are incapable of questioning themselves and thus incapable of learning.
That is EXACTLY what happened in America. Fight back hard NOW, it will only be harder in the future.
“It’s not your fault that you haven’t struck it big yet in your life, it’s the insert minority/marginalized group of the month’s fault.” They truly believe that the AfD will help them.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that how it literally started with Adolf Hitler!?
In essence, yes. Or at least that was a big part of Hitler’s campaign.
Back then it was the Jews and socialists gutting Germany by accepting unconditional surrender after WW1 (Dolchstoßlegende), today it’s immigrants, especially muslims, trying to impose their culture upon us.
(/s) But what happened in 1933 cannot happen again because now we are so much smarter and people back then were dumb. (/s)
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It seems that the article only mentions numbers for Frankfurt.
Do you have a country for me to fuck off to in a few years.
Any stable democracies?
Ireland didn’t elect McGregor as president. They might be worth your time.
Canada is my only hope. Please Canadians, don’t go insane, too.
If you believe that you haven’t been watching. Conservatives nearly got a majority last election.
Ya. That was lucky how badly they fucked up.
Iceland
We don’t need any more tourists, thank you.
How about citizens?
Considering they have an app there to make sure the person you’re chatting with at the bar isn’t too close of a cousin to fuck, I’d say they can probably use a few of those.
Citizens or fuckable cousins?
¿Porque no los both?
Antartica
I keep saying it again and again, but this is the future of European politics. The “progressive” brand of politics that was very pro-immigration in the 2000s and 2010s is dead. The establishment parties that are choosing to cling to it are going to get burned by this gamble.
The reality is that Western Europe handled immigration horribly and there are real issues and people are facing real consequences. The reasonable course of action to address these issues and try to resolve them. However, establishment parties simply refuse to do anything. They either pretend these issues don’t exist or that they’re not that bad, and then blame any criticism of these issues or policies as racists. It is a stupid and elitist approach that is leading people to seek out alternatives.
What’s the alternative? It’s these far right parties, they’re the only ones who address the issues of immigration and want to do something about them. The polls regularly show that these far right parties are entirely fueled by anti-immigration sentiment. That is why people flock to them and why they’re relevant. Their prominence in European politics sends a loud statement as to the failures of the establishment parties. They’re so incompetent and out of touch, that they’re being bested by foreign funded grifter parties that offer worse policies and more extreme rhetoric.
But it doesn’t have to be this way. These far right parties are only inevitable if the establishment parties double down on their mistakes. But what if they don’t do that? What if they wise up and adapt to the current political climate, what would happen? Well there is a country who’s establishment parties did this, and that’s Denmark. It is the only Western European country where it’s establishment left wing parties figured out the secret formula. They kept the popular economic and social policies, but also adopted a reasonable anti-immigration platform to match the will of the people, and guess what? It worked, Denmark doesn’t have a far right party surging in the polls. They kept what worked, and fixed what didn’t, thus leading them to neutralize the far right. This is the model that the rest of Europe is going to find itself adopting sooner or later.
A country should never give into its worst tendencies. There has been plenty of racism already, more isn’t going to fix it and it won’t fix you.
Maybe you are agreeing, but it’s unclear.
Adopting a reasonable immigration policy isn’t giving into their worst tendencies, it’s dealing with a situation in a responsible manner, so that extremists don’t fill the vacuum with THEIR unreasonable solutions.
That’s a whole lot of words to try and justify racism.
Reasonable immigration policy is not racism, you’re a part of the problem that’s fueling the far right.
The German government has to get going to finally show some tangible results. The last government, at least at the end, did basically nothing, the current one is not fulfilling its promises, either, and people are left standing, seeing that money is spent everywhere but for the peoples needs.
The chancellor is 100% in the pockets of the rich, so properly taxing the top 5% to get the money to fix things is completely out of question. But that is a problem other governments seem to have, too. As if fairly taxing the rich was against some physical law of the universe. Or if taxing capital income as high as income from work would open the gates of hell.
Correction for you: the last government was heavily criticized by the media about the most absurd things nonstop for years.
The media could have used all this energy to write against the afd and we would have a different result now. Apparently it was more important to shit on a left wing liberal government than to save democracy.
Our worst chancellor since 1945 used the program of the afd as his own to keep them small. This never works. This always legitimizes right wing populist parties and does not weaken them.
The current government may not even last 4 years and then its pro Putin fascists in power.
That’s the problem. The current government has to deliver. FAST. And they have not understood that yet, I’m afraid.
It is a f*cking disgrace for the US and even more for Europe electing fascists.
Electing opinions over facts. But as an european I’m not surprised, sadly.
UK, France, and now Germany. The far-right really is winning everywhere huh… What can we do? Is there still hope?
It’s happening here in Australia too. I’m watching the slow rise after being lucky enough to escape the US.
I wrote about my experience going to a racist rally a month or so ago with my husband and children.
It was supposed to be peaceful and I wouldn’t have expected to be putting my kids in danger.
Fascism is a disease that spread rapidly in last century: 10-15 years. Imagine how fast it can spread in a world with Internet, cars, airplanes and trains. No place is safe
Yeah, we take it to the source: Russian propaganda should be completely cut off from the rest of the internet.
The source of fascism is Europe itself, not Russia. We literally invented fascism, first in Italy, then Germany and finally allowed it to live unbothered in Spain.
Russian media was censored already what, two years ago? And the far right keeps exploding in popularity. Europe can’t keep blaming the Russians for every bad thing happening in the continent, we have a responsibility in fighting fascism and waving hands saying it’s somebody else’s fault isn’t going to solve it.
Racism, misogyny, islamophobia and the total loss of faith in the current system are the main reasons for far-right vote. Europe has been in an economic crisis since 2008, and electing socdems or christiandemocrats has led to the exact same policy everywhere for the past 17 years: austerity, austerity, and more austerity. Kid Starver in England, supposed labour party, enacts policy as far-right as the far-right government in Finland, both countries driving hundreds of thousands of people into poverty and austerity.
What we need to fight fascism in Europe is what worked last time: less hand-waving, and more worker organizing. Whether you like or dislike the anarchists from the CNT in Spain, or the communists from the CPSU in the east, they were the only ones who meaningfully fought, and in the latter case ultimately defeated fascism. Organize, unionize, join local worker struggles, push for international worker solidarity with Palestine.
People dont like this (correct) take because it doesn’t allow them to blame their countries’ problems on foreigners.
“Is it our withered social systems, our sickly education, our ever-evasive retirement age, ballooning wealth inequality, crumbling infrastructure, or corrupt government that is causing our descent into fascism? No… it is because of people’s innate stupidity and Ruzzian propaganda”
You called your take correct before you even said it lol.
It can be both, and more than just those two things as well.
Just because the media channels got blocked didnt stop them from dealing in swill over the internet
Believe it or not, your average far-right European voter isn’t concerned with Ukraine and doesn’t admire the invasion, they’re mostly racist misogynist islamophobes who have been progressively impoverished by every party in the political spectrum of their country for a decade and a half in a row.
Yup. I’ve seen a lot of deflections via: Matters in a different country or continent seem trivial when there are ‘bigger’ and more ‘urgent’ problems right in my citystate/country. Can’t beat the excuses to hide ones own flaws
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Do a little honest introspection you leftie. (I’m leftist too)
idk, honestly. usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there’s a global empathy shortage… too much hate and too little love.
usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there’s a global empathy shortage… too much hate and too little love.
It’s the understandable pent up anger because of failed promises by ruling elites, hiding behind fake smiles and platitudes, who are supposed to be representative of the people. The older I get, the less the Star Wars Prequel becomes meesa Jar Jar-y. Lucas touched on toxic masculinity and the lack of positive male role models, and I think he saw something in history that none of us have twenty years ago, on how toxic masculinity influences real politics. It’s obvious now how fascism has connection to toxic masculinity, but I think only few saw it at the time.
The only time nazis go down is when they are put down. The free world needs strength to do what’s necessary and avoid the paradox of tolerance.
The only time nazis go down is when they are put down
Usually by communists in particular
lol you wish.
Please don’t insult the memory of my ancestors with your ignorance. I’m a Spaniard, and our civil war against fascism in 1936-1939 was mainly fought by anarchists and communists using Soviet-made weapons, airplanes and tanks
yes your single example definitely justifies “usually” lmao go tour a gulag or smt tankie
Single example? 80% of Nazi soldiers died in the Eastern Front against the Soviets. Communist China kicked out fascist Japan from the mainland through unthinkable armed struggle. Communist Cubans kicked out fascist dictator Batista from the island. Tell me now about my single examples. You don’t have to support each of those movements to see the historical fact: communists and anarchists are historically the first and most successful to fight fascism. Please provide counterexamples of capitalist countries or movements fighting against fascism and winning, until then stop spitting on the memory of the antifascist partisans in Spain and Italy.
The capitalists actually supported & saved the Nazis (Liberals are a death cult too)
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Well one of the downside of learning German after living blissfully ignorant for over a decade here is that I can now understand Germans talking around me, and holy fuck have I been exposed to such rampant racism. Kinda explains both the Nazi past, and the current popularity of AfD, and upcoming future Holocaust 2.0.
To be honest the far right is up in a lot of places.
This is a result of the ever growing divide between the rich and the poor, the cost of living crisis, the AI future where a lot of young individuals are struggling finding jobs, the unaffordability of living spaces, etc.
Look what is happening in the US, that’s what’s scarier, where the right-wing is thriving and they are turning into an autocratic state, with suppression of civil liberties, abuse of power, etc. And they are desperately trying to export this ideology across the Atlantic. They don’t want a strong EU, that can threaten their hegemony and they consider the EU as a threat, long gone are the days of friendship and partnership.
Germans for you: https://youtu.be/6MSMjuhJ224
Fascism is back like in the late 1920s, we all know what happened right after.
NGL, I dont know what happens after this time. It seems like the entire west is turning to fascism so I’m not really sure who’d fight it
What gets me is that it’s all a response to the generally centre right governments focusing on business for the last 45 years. Government has forgotten about the individual in the west. And the people have had enough.
Why then, do they turn further right? This should be bonanza time for the left.
- Far right parties are happy to tell lies to get into power, so the people hear what they want to hear.
- 100 years is too long for living memory to survive.
The left gained a lot but mostly from the green party. Afd voters are lumpenproletariat that is unable to read. If they could read they would not vote against their interests.
The answer is the conservative propaganda machine, and the USA is a prime example.
Everything that made America “great” post WW2 were “socialist” driven labour, regulatory movements that decreased wealth inequality, improved economic mobility and housing security, increased quality of life and education, held corporate criminals accountable, etc, etc.
Wealthy sociopaths took that personally, and have spent the last 55 years destroying all of them; mainly through their ownership of media and dissemination of propaganda/disinformation, destruction of education. They chose fascism over improving the species and civilisation. They are our great filter, if we let them succeed.
They’re creating a system in which millions have to die for them to win and dozens have to die for us to win. I know which odds I’m taking in that bet.
Yeah, but thanks to their control of the media, they’ve also created a system where millions will leap to defend them while demonizing anyone who criticizes them. When things get truly dire, they’ll just point at some random demographic and say “it’s their fault!” and their followers will eat it up.
I’d love for them to face consequences for their actions, but going by history they’ll keep getting away with things until an ally backstabs them for power or the regime has eaten itself and fully fallen.
That’s true but as the saying goes “cut off the head of the snake and the body dies”. Eventually followers have no one left to follow whereas the other group has no real leaders. Once enough realize it’s a numbers game the outcome is easy enough to predict. The situation just needs to be viewed in a slightly different way than most people are conditioned to view it in.
That may be a big perspective shift but most of the constraints to our perceived available responses come from the desire to continue living within the confines of a social contract that is rapidly deteriorating. Most people haven’t begun to feel that directly yet but once they do the situation could change very quickly.
I think that violence is inevitable which is what you are saying between the lines.
A couple years ago these stories broke that ultra rich are prepping for doomsday scenarios like in mad max where some horde is trying to storm their compound and they just defend themselves until everything blows over.
They do not plan on having most of humanity around. The time to stop them is now, not when everything is lost and they hide in their bunker.
The unresolved issues caused by low birth rates and high immigration from incompatible cultures leading to less social cohesion in society.
I’m not sure anyone really fought it last time. The wars didn’t start until Germany started invading other nations which is what started the shooting.
The US didn’t even enter the war until it was bombed.
“We fought fascism” is a bit of retroactive justification IMHO. We didn’t, we were just defending ourselves from fascists who attacked first.
If Hitler stayed in Germany… Who knows?
I’m not sure anyone really fought it last time
25+ million Soviet people died in the struggle against fascism, resulting in 80% of the total Nazi casualties being in the eastern front. Please don’t insult the memory of the heroes who died saving Europe from fascism.
Also, I’m a Spaniard. Anarchists in Spain organized and fought fascism in the Spanish civil war, with Soviet assistance too back in 1936-1939. If you’re not sure who fought fascism, I urge you to educate yourself in communist/anarchist movements.
25+ million Soviet people died in the struggle against fascism, resulting in 80% of the total Nazi casualties being in the eastern front. Please don’t insult the memory of the heroes who died saving Europe from fascism.
I’m not trying to minimize anything here. The Soviet Union had a non-aggression pact with Germany and they didn’t “fight against fascism” until Germany invaded. Meaning “there being Nazis” wasn’t the trigger of that fighting, it was “Germany invaded us”. But then sure, it was “fighting against fascism” because it was “fascists” invading. But it could have been anyone invading.
It’s a subtle distinction I’m making.
Also, I’m a Spaniard. Anarchists in Spain organized and fought fascism in the Spanish civil war, with Soviet assistance too back in 1936-1939. If you’re not sure who fought fascism, I urge you to educate yourself in communist/anarchist movements.
This is fair - I was thinking mostly of the main Axis/Allies conflict. I’m also over-simplifying a bit in that I’m focusing mostly on leadership. I understand that there were grassroots efforts. And Spain definitely had its own fascism problem where the people did fight directly against fascism.
Though as an aside: I can think of no more of an obnoxious phrase than “educate yourself”. 🙄
they didn’t “fight against fascism” until Germany invaded
Did you not read my comment? I specifically mentioned the Soviets being the only country in the world that meaningfully helped the antifascists in Spain with weapons, tanks, artillery and aviation, back in 1936, 3 years before the start of WW2 while all of western Europe was doing appeasement with the Nazis and “non-intervention” against fascism in my homeland.
Before the start of the war, the Soviets were famously trying to urge all of Europe against Fascism and in particular against Nazi Germany through mutual defense agreements. They signed one with Czechoslovakia together with France, which France refused to honour (see Munich Betrayal), which, and I quote Wikipedia: “The Soviet Union announced its willingness to come to Czechoslovakia’s assistance, provided the Red Army would be able to cross Polish and Romanian territory; both countries refused.”, again back in 1938, before any Fascist invasion of the Soviets. Furthermore, the USSR under the Litvinov doctrine sought after mutual defense agreements with Poland, France and England, to the point of offering to send ONE MILLION SOLDIERS to France (Archive mirror to bypass paywall) together with tanks, aviation and artillery to France on exchange for a mutual defense agreement, which France declined.
Looking into Soviet interwar policy, it’s patently obvious that they were the strongest antifascist formation in Europe except possibly for the Spanish republicans during the Spanish civil war.
I’m also over-simplifying a bit in that I’m focusing mostly on leadership
My point stands though. Fascism was fought predominantly by Communist and Anarchist leadership. China against fascist Japan, Cuban revolutionaries against fascist dictator Batista, Spanish Republican government in the Spanish civil war… Whereas it was capitalist countries funding fascist coups all over the world such as that of Augusto Pinochet in Chile against socialdemocrat Allende, the Iranian coup against socialist-aligned Mosaddeq…
Did you not read my comment?
Yes I did - and you’re making excellent points - don’t do this though. You want to harden somebody against you? You say shit like this.
My point stands though. Fascism was fought predominantly by Communist and Anarchist leadership. China against fascist Japan, Cuban revolutionaries against fascist dictator Batista, Spanish Republican government in the Spanish civil war… Whereas it was capitalist countries funding fascist coups all over the world such as that of Augusto Pinochet in Chile against socialdemocrat Allende, the Iranian coup against socialist-aligned Mosaddeq…
I’ll accept your argument.
Yeah, you’re actually right. Sorry for being a smug ass, I guess I’m sensitive about this part of history which is heavily misunderstood and propagandized against socialists like me, but you’re right and I’ll try to be more chill about it. Thanks for the chat
The Soviet Union invaded Poland and Finland. It was an expansionist imperialist power itself.
They had a blatant disregard for the lives of their own people before WW2 even started as well as afterwards. Sacrificing the masses was state policy.
The Soviet Union invaded the famously Polish cities of looks map… Lviv (6th largest city in modern Ukraine), Pinsk (10th largest city in modern Belarus) and Vilnius (capital of Lithuania)? Most of the territories invaded by the Soviets in “Poland” were actually Ukrainian, Belarusian and Lithuanian territories that had been invaded by Poland in their 1919 expansionist war against Ukraine. Or are you a Ukrainophobe saying that Lviv belongs to Poland?
For reference: Poland in 1938
And a map of the territories the Soviets invaded:
The USSR had a blatant disregard for the lives of their own people before WW2, which explains why life expectancy looks at chart …increased from 30ish years old to 40+?
What do you think about Russia Ukraine in today’s context? Thanks
Unfortunately, both of them suffered the illegal and antidemocratic dissolution of the USSR, which led to the greatest humanitarian crisis and loss of life in Europe since WW2, with scholars such as Paul Cockshott estimating the deaths in more than 5 million after demographic analysis of the region, with Ukraine being hit especially hard due to becoming the poorest country in Europe after the dismantling of its entire economy in the 90s. Unemployment, depression, alcoholism, homelessness, drug addiction, violent crime, mental health problems and even hunger and preventable disease turned the 90s and early 2000s into some of the worst that Europe has seen in more than half a century, and I therefore condemn the capitalist government of both countries extensively for all the damage they’re doing to their own populations.
So what was that holodomor thing about, harmless right? Great leap forward also awesome did not kill anyone. Good talk man…
“Holodomor” is just a scary word to refer to the 1931-1933 Soviet famine. Do you also use special scary words to describe capitalist-driven famines such as the Bengal Famine that the British created in India, or is it a privilege only reserved for the last serious non-war-made famine in the USSR?
Famines, believe it or not, were commonplace in preindustrial Russian Empire, which had a terribly low life expectancy. Between 1917 (Bolshevik revolution) and 1941 (Soviet Union entering WW2) life expectancy rose from 30 years to about 41. The Socialist project in Eastern Europe made some mistakes, such as errors in the collectivization of 1929-1934 during the first 5-year plan that led to unexpected sabotage and failed crops, but ultimately these mistakes were more than compensated for through social policy, universal healthcare and education, and probably most importantly, enabling the industrialization of the Soviet Union that allowed for the mechanization of agriculture and the end of famines (which by itself saved millions of lives) and the win against the Nazis 10 years afterwards (which by itself saved tens of millions of lives from the planned genocide against the slavic peoples by the Nazis according to the Generalplan Ost. The Soviet project saved tens if not millions of lives from hunger, disease, exploitation, and worst of all, colonisation and extermination by Nazis.
Yeah, history doesn’t provide much help in this regard because fascism was stopped by the Axis losing a war. That’s not happening this time.
And even then nazis were still everywhere in the government, courts, police, army and everywhere else. Hell, some old new generals of newly formed Bundeswehr even had plans to overthrow the government.
Entnazification is a myth, they were never gone and now they don’t even need to hide anymore.
Just like the American Confederacy! Turns out you can’t just ignore the bastards and hope they change.
fascism was stopped by the Axis losing a war. That’s not happening this time.
What do you mean? NATO can’t even win a war against similarly fascist Russia, Rutte himself said that Russia (an impoverished country with less GDP than Germany) produces ammo 4 times as fast as the entirety of NATO. Whenever western fascism inevitably engages militarly against China, it will be swiftly swept out of the map by the strongest industrial power in history.
It’ll be the communist in China who will fight fascism. But even China’s claim as being a communist is questionable since the 1990’s.
Surely the fascists pretending to be communist will save us from the fascists pretend to be democratic!
How is China fascist? It hasn’t participated in a war in 40 years, it lifted 800mn people from poverty, has strong public healthcare, education and retirement, and routinely cancels sovereign debt from global-south countries. I went to China last year and people there are pretty happy and hopeful for the future compared to our bleak outlook here in the west.
God, I love triggering Tankies.
I suspect the people benefiting from the rise of fascism in the States seem pretty happy too.
Westerners hate China and hate Muslims, but for some reason care so much about Chinese Muslims. Notice how even the Wikipedia article title got changed from “Genocide” to “Persecution”, I wonder why that is.
You, as a westerner of a country actively supporting actual genocide in Palestine, the one you can actually go online TODAY and watch videos of how many kids got bombed yesterday, are criticising the Chinese government for a harsh reeducation campaign in a province that hosted radical Islamist groups carrying out terror attacks in China which killed hundreds of people. Your fucking homeland of Canada (assuming from your instance) has all but eliminated the native populations of the region, and you have the courage of crying “TaNkIe” because I think that a country that uplifted 1/10th the world population from poverty in 30 years is admirable in that regard.
Ah yes, build a strawman “westerner,” surely that’ll help you. I wasn’t praising Canada’s practices, but whatever helps you project, I guess. My favorite part of your entire neurotic rant, honestly, is that you defend genocide by pointing to a worse genicide, like somehow that makes every insane, disgusting, and anti-humanitarian thing China had done totally fine, because, “but the West is worse!”
You can think whatever you want, but my suspicion is that you’re either lying or terribly misled. And yes, probably a tankie, but there’s room for error there.
“Say what you want about Hitler, but he pulled Germany out of poverty!”
But who’s going to be the Allies this time?
Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, and others will make sure there will be no “Allies” this time…
China. It’s the socialist industrial power of today, and the west keeps positioning itself geopolitically against it.
Keep pumping that social credit.
Tiananmen Square mothefucker.
“Social credit” was straight up never a policy that happened on any national level in China. There were some city-level attempts at a similar system, but they were condemned by the government.
I’m a Spaniard who proudly participated in the sabotage of La Vuelta Ciclista in favour of Palestine just over a week ago with my communist organization, and who yesterday was glueing signs in Madrid calling for the Student Strike on the 2nd of October and the general protest on the 4th of October pushing for a general strike against genocide. You’re attacking the wrong people here, the enemies are European fascists, not European communists.
You can see what’s happening in the USA, Germany. That’s really what you want for yourself? Again?
Pretty much all the adults from WWII are dead. Notice we’re doing the same stupid shit? Gilded Age wealth gap, tariffs, fascism, heading for a depression, etc.?
Yes. Unfortunately people are that dumb.
I have no part in this. Neither do my peers. Lies, deception, easy answers to complex questions and a lack in education are doing this.
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.
Don’t say that too loud, they might find a reason to send you off to something like alligator alcatraz once they’re in power.
Apparently, those people mysteriously disappeared.
Don’t let them get to you. Its like 1000 people doing this. We can change it still.
I wish I believed you. I try to keep my defeatism to myself but the overwhelming majority of people around me IRL are going around like nothing is happening, ignoring current events in the name of self care. Must be fucking nice.
Yeah, I feel you. I’m ruzzian, and I’m mostly sit in my parents’ home, cause all around me are dumb as fuck
I’ve been talking with Russians on Reddit. maybe it’s all bots, but most of them really think NATO started the War in Ukraine, that every country in the West has always hated Russia and wants to destroy them, that all the invasions are in self-defense, that attacking the Baltics and Poland would be justified… it was terrifying.
they’re so cynical too - Western news is propaganda, Western democracies are shams, NATO wants to destroy Russia, everyone is Russophobic, that our citizens deserve to suffer for arming Ukraine, that we’d kill them all if we could, so they don’t care if they kill us.
they think they can break NATO, that we will fall apart if Poland is invaded, that Russia will emerge victorious and the Western order will lie in shambles. don’t they see they’re playing with nuclear holocaust? do they care? are they so fatalistic they’d play (apologies) Russian roulette with the extinction of humanity?
I ask you because you seem sane. is this just propaganda from kremlbots, or are most Russians really like this?
Most ruzzians are like this because of cremlin propaganda. It’s on all news channels, all celebrities either echoing it, or escaping the country, and than those who left here will run hate campaign against them. Some left three years ago, and they still showing them on TV, calling them traitors and almost straightforward wishing them death. It’s just like maga, hating 24/7.
Goddamn… Sneak peak of the near future of America I’m afraid
I am American and all ready do this but in my own place. I live in an area that worships Trump like a god.
FUCK
Do better, Germany
It’s the scars of reunification. The east has a lot of people left behind.
Nah its scars of not doing anything to fight the bad guys and just “carrying on” until the fucming mold just keeps on growing.
Yes, it should have been done much better
Eastern Germany is like the US South in that regard.
Then what is Bavaria?
Edit: I guess Bavaria is analogous to Texas more than the mid or deep south.
Having spent a ton of time in Bavaria, yeah, it’s closer to Texas or the Midwest than the South.
Sorry can’t. Police and courts will stop anyone from taking out nazis themselves.
