Cocaine, famously great for your mental health
Freud was a fan, and he basically invented therapy
Freud was wrong about most of his therapy related ideas.
Also, he was wildy depressed, solving none of his issues.
Someone told me it was his mother’s fault
And that he envied his daddies schlong
did you know that that’s the main reason why men are depressed?
But have you seen Freud’s mother? Yowza!
did he try enough cocaine?
I guess not
He did shake things up with a lot of new ideas. I’d like to think that proving him wrong has gotten us to a better place; it’s the fin de siecle version of being wrong on the internet, everyone writes to correct you. Kind of sucks for everyone that got the bad advice in the meantime, tho.
Idk man, if we had the drugs of the Victorian era but the worker rights of today, I think everybody would be happier 🤷♂️
Freud was a pioneer with no technology to help him.
That is true, but that still doesn’t make any of his advice correct.
I’m not a medical historian, but he must have been of some use, otherwise we’d have never heard of him.
Just because a lot of his work has been supplanted doesn’t mean he should be condemned
It’s not about condemming him.
What he did was basically kick off the whole genre of research. And for that he is still credited and well-known.
But it seems you missed the context of this thread. It started with someone sarcastically joking that cocaine is “famously good for your health”, to which someone sarcastically mock-backed the claim by referencing that Freud did back cocaine.
There’s no need or point in defending this very debunked claim.
Btw, Freud recommended cocaine as a medication against alcoholism. He administered cocaine to an alcoholic friend of his, and it did nothing against his alcoholism. In fact, the friend died soon after off a combined alcohol-cocaine overdose. This did not stop Freud from claiming that cocaine is great. He even got his girlfriend hooked on it.
Freud did start the whole field of research, but his own research has been debunked a very long time ago. There’s basically nothing of his research left that still counts as “state of the art”, but sadly many uneducated people still repeat his nonsense.
It’s kinda like believing that Carl Benz’ earliest car patents still have any relevance in modern car design. We credit Carl Benz for kickstarting the research in combustion engine cars, but nobody would be stupid enough to think that early research in that field has any relevance to today’s practice.
After reading about Oedipus, apparently.
“My cardiologist smokes a pack a day”
[off topic]
The 7% Solution. Drs. Freud and Watson team up to help Sherlock Holmes overcome his cocaine addiction.
Fun movie, directed by the author of the original novel.
Umm, I’ve never jerked off a woman, but okay…
you uh… . .
you looking to change that?
Do I get coke too?
That’s for patient use only! You’ll have to transition first if you want to use it.
👉👈
What would be the better word?
Manual stimulation was the term I believe.
And one doctor got so tired of it that he invented the vibrator.
thank goodness
Kinda kills the joke.
I think it adds more depth, and warmth
Flicked the bean?
I don’t have one and could still feel that.
Yeah, that sounds seriosly painful.
This treatment definitely only applies to men. I don’t think anyone ever “jerked off” a woman in the 1800s. Before then and afterwards, sure, but not during the Victorian times
Actually, masturbation as treatment for “hysterical paroxyism” had its peak during victorian times.
“Yes patient, it is IMPERATIVE that I get my fingers inside of you as soon as possible… For science”
The smell was unbearable.
Gotta live sometime.
who hasnt
Ah yes, “hysteria”…
Women also didn’t have rights and were considered their husband’s “property”. So ummm yea, please no.
we don’t need to bring everything back. only those parts
Same sex marriage solves this problem.
don’t you mean “Good friends and roommates”?
I don’t believe that pic, no gay man would allow that monobrow.
some people shape their bodies, some people are proud of them no matter what shape they take.
Bert definitely seems like the kind of gay man who would.
Bert has Ernie and his pigeons. He’s definitely in his IDGAF era.
Permanent bachelors
That wasn’t allowed either
Don’t forget voting!
Oh and open a bank account!
Best I can do is some mushrooms (possibly magic) and a washing machine on spin.
Eh. You can get a vibrat
oring back massager from the home goods section in Walmart for $6.That said all that serotonin is gonna make it HELLA hard to orgasm.
Over here, they sell all sorts of “standard” sex toys, like vibrators, in drugstores. Out in the open, right next to the condoms and lube. #justeuropethings
This is basically true in the US nowadays. Hard to say if it’s every state, as some are more regressive than others.
And yet there’s often no toys for those with exterior parts
The net disagrees…
I have one in my sex toy box, and its ok, I guess. doesn’t really work very well for me though.
Plug it in.
Win-win. Tasty dinner or unraveling your childhood. Or slow, agonising death, of course.
We already have the slow agonizing death part down to a science
I’ve just started on my cology journey
Fun fact, vibrators were invented as a ‘medical’ tool to aid women.
Me at the sex shop checkout:
“I… I have a prescription.”
And bicycles were discouraged, because they could promote hysteria.
Same thing as chainsaws. Go ahead, Google why the chainsaw was invented
From The Columbus Dispatch:
Chainsaws were originally invented by Scottish doctors John Aitken and James Jeffray in the last 18th century for medical purposes, specifically to assist in a surgical procedure called symphysiotomy1 during childbirth. This early version of the chainsaw was a hand-cranked device used to remove ossified2 tissue. Over time, the chainsaw evolved into a powerful tool used for lodging.
1: symphysiotomy, symphysiotomy is a surgical procedure that involves dividing the cartilage of the pubic symphys to widen the pelvis, facilitating childbirth when there is difficulty due to a narrow pelvis. This operation is also called pyelotomy and is performed to allow passage of a baby during obstructed labor. 2 ossified, having turned into bone or bony tissue
or washing machines.
GROK says it was invented to establish government fiscal responsibility.
A film called “Hysteria” from 2011 covers that. Although apparently not historically accurate.
Well yeah. These women were suffering from extreme bouts of hysteria.
Thought it was a facial massaging device… until “facial” became optional.
It’s really sad but also kinda fascinating that there are definitely people who could read this and believe it’s evidence of the downfall of modern society caused by equal rights, instead of realizing that this bitch was just understandably tired and making a humor joke in an attempt to lighten the burden of having to face another day trying to roll the boulder back up the bullshit mountain created by the people who want to take away her (and everyone else’s) rights, dismantle society, and cause it to collapse.
Even stranger that the title says “women”.
Well tbf, I did read the tweet and immediately upvote in solidarity with her
No accusation meant toward you, meant OP.
That does sound a lot better than therapy. Why don’t we do that anymore? Cocaine and jerking off are still S tier relievers.
We don’t?
At the Dr’s
That would not be my preferred setting for a line and a wank
I thought we did
I mean… You can still have that kind of fun, it’s just not called a doctor anymore.
Oh who does this now? Do they do home visits?
I would also never do therapy. :) But I also wouldnt do drugs.
And that’s why you’re not 1889.
:)
And then you die at the ripe old age of 35 from a cut on your hand
I wonder how many of my health issues are because of injuries being left untreated (professionally).
like I tore my leg open on gravel last summer, nice big patch completely gone down below the hair follicles. just cleaned it out when I got home a couple hours later and kept flushing it multiple times a day and putting antibiotic cream on it, for a few weeks until it eventually healed over. took forever because of how deep and large it was, also I guess I’m just older and heal slower now. it definitely was at least a little bit infected for the week or two. it healed itself though
but, like, I’ve done that all my life. how fucked up is my body because of that. good thing was I got my overdue tetnis shot a few months earlier when I did go to emerge for something else that wouldn’t stop bleeding
Correction: This woman
You gotta be careful, because if you don’t go far back enough, you’ll end up lobotomized in some kind of haunted house. Go too far back and, especially as a woman, you’ll be labeled “hysterical” or worse then exiled or killed. You gotta find that sweet spot when you could walk into Wild West CVS and take home a bottle Morphinecocainemeth to help wash down the Bovril.
They’re exactly looking to be treated for hysteria.
While the word know just means frantic and sort of crazed and can be applied to anyone, it’s originally about having a womb. From the greek word for a womb.
You’re obviously right that them getting sent to an asylum or getting their brain poked through their eye (although lobotomy wouldn’t be invented for like 30-40 years from their date) would be horrible.
But she’s also right that they did indeed used to “jerk off” female patients as a treatment for hysteria. Then the doctors got lazy about rubbing and fingering women until climax, so they invented the vibrator. I may be taking a few liberties with the story so Google it yourself to verify the historicity.
Is that why hysterectomy is removing the uterus is it tied to being hysterical?
I’m thinking a bit of both, but “definitely” to the first.
I really wonder about what people thought of that then. Did people really think it was a medical thing, or was this just a socialy respectable way for a man who couldn’t get his wife off to pass the task on to someone who could perform the task with an air of medical respectability?
Or Hell, maybe it was a 19th century kink or swinger thing. People have always been freaky. At times in history they just had to hide it better.
I actually googled it a bit, and idk when “hysteria” widened to include men as well, but the very first inventor of a vibrator for medical purposes said he wouldn’t use his “percuteur” for women as that would not be fitting. But he was a religious man afaik.
There were all sorts of galvanic stimulators and whatnot so I don’t think they were all as prudes as we might think.
Me too, thanks
So would I.
