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    Harris said on July 30 that she won’t run for California governor, leaving the door open for a potential 2028 presidential run.

    Leaving the door open for her to run again or for someone else? How is being Governor relevant anyhow?

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    Is, “influenced by billionaires,” a euphemism for, “she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?”

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      I mean I’m not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that’s pretty much the view from over here.

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          Sure, exactly what Bernie was doing. So like, we agree then that Bernie was correct to endorse Harris even if she became kind of a shit sandwich along the way.

          Unlike this guy, who I guess would rather have Bernie tell his supporters to vote for Trump? Not endorse? It’s unclear because their position is so mindless, which is why I replied what I did.

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    I mean, I voted for her, and would vote for her again any day if it meant voting against Trump, but he’s not wrong.

    She’s not really unique in that aspect compared to any other mainstream Democrat vs any outsider or mainstream Republican, and that’s probably ~90% of the DNC’s problem when it comes to overcoming voter apathy.

    Realistically, most people are not expecting Dems to refuse large donations, but accepting a donation should not mean that you then compromise your own values to accommodate 1% of voters on any issue. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to work. That’s just pay to play.

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      Its so stupid to me that we’ve now reached the point that politicians don’t even pretend to be public servants anymore. They’re just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a “hi how are ya” and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.

      Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She’s either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.

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    Harris & 95% or more of the democratic party. Outlaw money from politics - lobbying, campaign finance, PACs, political foundations (i.e. Heritage), all of it.

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      The DNC is committed to insider trading, corruption and AIPAC. In no way do they represent the interests of the majority. They are rewarded handsomely to play reluctant enabler in the political theater.

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    Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)

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      Some green parties considering all of their policies are conflicts of interests with billionaires?

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        They still heavily compromise, only targeting very specific sectors.

        Besides, billionaires aren’t a monolith - they also have differing interests. Someone might have a heavy stake in solar power for instance and no stake in oil, in which case they’d support greens.

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    and he’s a zionist shill that doesn’t really have a position to stand on either. calling him progressive when he’s a liberal zionist is absolutely batshit.

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      Bernie, Jon Stewart and some other Jewish people condemned what’s going on in Palestine and does not support killing kids. Can you back your story? Maybe there’s something I don’t know. Now most normal people of empathy does not support what Hamas did to innocent Jews, same as the zionist are doing to innocent Palestinians and West Bank on a greater scale as an excuse to sieze more land.

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        Starting on February 21st, 2025, he set off on the “Fighting Olligarchy Tour” with the other pathetic liberal zionist where he stated that Isntreal has a right to exist. He received criticism and yet still removed and silenced Pro-Palestinian protestors from his rallies. His exact statement from the rally:

        “Israel, like any other country, has the right to defend itself from terrorism, but it does not have the right to wage all out war against the Palestinian people”

        The only terrorists are the settlers occupying that land and for him to allude to Hamas being a terrorist organization is just more proof of his ignorance. An indigenous resistance group is NOT a terrorist when they’re trying to liberate themselves from the terrorist settlers that are trying to genocide them.

        Not only does he actively defend Isntreal’s right to exist but he has also been called out for his voting record. Especially his vote to confirm Marco Rubio. As an indigenous person, that settler is nothing more than another pale face devil that pretends to act like some white savior when in fact the language he uses is actively causing harm to society.

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          If Israel doesn’t have a right to exist what is the alternative in your opinion?

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                The eradication of a state is not genocide. Israelis could choose to live under a Palestinian government or they could go back to Eastern Europe where most of their ancestors came from. Either way, Israel has shown itself not deserving of existence.

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        Bernie Sanders has literally said that Isntreal has a right to exist and defends its status as a state. No state has the right to exist. That pale face poser actively shuts down pro-Palestinian voices at his rallies and talks, ignores the criticism on how he speaks about the genocide, all while protecting his precious Isntreal.

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        Bernie supports sending interceptors to Israel and get out of here comparing the Nazis to their resisting victims.

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    Bernie Sanders bent the knee to the same oligarchs in 2016.

    Every day he fails to support the creation of a leftist party he continues to be complicit.

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      Bernie Sanders bent the knee to the same oligarchs in 2016.

      Every day he fails to support the creation of a leftist party he continues to be complicit.

      -SoftestSapphic

      Explain

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      there are way too many liberals in this thread down voting us for speaking the truth. Bernie is just another pathetic liberal zionist.

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    …. She would have been another bandaid. Just like Biden was. Out of everything that’s happening right now, why is this making the news?

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      This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn’t one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.

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      We don’t actually need the files to eject the occupant of the whitehouse from that residence. I mean, We The People are in charge. We just have to decide to do it.

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            You don’t have the local lumber, the Chinese steel, or the skilled labor to build them in the first place, is what I’m saying.

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              Ya I don’t have the intention to reduce suffering and a shotgun costs $200.00. I’m thinking kind of an aim low disappearing act sort of gig.

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              What does any of that have to do with the fact that Trump fucked kids?

              I would point out that you probably have access to a chainsaw and a tree, and a scrappable vehicle made primarily of steel. These are things that the typical 18th century French peasant didn’t have.

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      Centrist? She campaigned with Cheney. That’s right wing.

      She was at the center between fascism and conservatism.

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      She did that in 2020…

      There was only a very very brief window she pretended to be slightly progressive, but it was an act everyone saw thru, and the dumbasses that were running the party till this year just threw her with Biden because they legitimately thought Black woman equals progressive vote.

      Everyone held their noses for Biden because he was the only option, so they just tried to double down on it. It’s what happens when a party is corrupt, the people who rise to the top are the ones willing to do anything for donations, because that was the sole metric the old guard cared about.

      If you could raise money for their shitty candidate, you got promoted. So we ended up with over a billion dollar campaign that was almost certainly a grift and a complete waste of money from state parties that handed trump the House.

      Now, all that being said…

      The voting members of the DNC did finally wake up and elected a chair who wouldn’t fight against the party’s own base. Martin ran Minnesota for a decade, made it solid blue, and home to some of our most progressive politicians and highschool football coach Tim Walz as governor.

      If he’s a neoliberal bought off by billionaires and AIPAC, then he’s absolute dog shit at stopping progressives in primaries, and it’s completely illogical that he kept supporting them in the general.

      We got an equal playing field for the first time since the 90s.

      We just need to get people to show up in the primary. We can’t fucking waste this chance.