• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
    231·
    2 days ago

    Yeah, if I’m not using the computer I turn it off because why would I be wasting electricity? So it’s the same for windows or linux to me. You do need to reboot your computer sometimes anyway. For linux it’s when you update the kernel. For windows you just have to reboot for similar reasons or after you’ve spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why something isn’t working and then in desperation “try turning it off and turning it back on again”. Better to just turn it off when you’re done using it and turn it on when you need it again and many of those issues are avoided completely.

    So I turn off my computer when I’m not using it and I save power AND so the computer doesn’t get glitchy. It doesn’t take much time for the computer to boot up, so there’s not much reason to not just turn it off when I’m not using it.

  • cley_faye@lemmy.world
    24·
    3 days ago

    But by the time the lid is up to reach the power button, it’s already out of sleep and operational…

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish
      14·
      2 days ago

      I remember when windows used to brag about incredibly fast boot times.

      Now, my 5 yo gaming PC takes about 30 seconds to wake up to the password screen. While my Linux laptop takes 15 seconds to go from cold start to desktop.

      • Sustolic@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        For me I can reach the windows desktop in around 14 or 15 seconds (auto login), for most people the biggest bottleneck is a slow bios.

        Linux and windows normally have very similar boot times at least on my hardware.

        5600X

        B550 AORUS ELITE

        Intel 660p

        • mittorn@masturbated.one
          1·
          1 day ago

          @Sustolic @VitoRobles 15 years ago initng in linuxmint was doing magic; booting system to gnome2 desktop in 3 seconds from grub. On PCs with intel motherboard this was about 4 seconds from poweron. And moreover, this was on HDD.
          Now all systems are bloated and cannot boot in 3 seconds even on SSD

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      16·
      3 days ago

      Lucky you! Mine just crashes when I try to enter Sleep mode leaving both screens on and frozen, and nothing at all working.

      • olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        1 day ago

        Maybe try the kernel parameter amd_iommu=off if you have an AMD CPU (and you’re talking about Linux and not Windows). I had the same problem and this fixed it for me.

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          1 day ago

          Hey, thanks! Unfortunately, I’m a very new Linux user (190 days according to fish), so I’ve no idea how or where I would set that parameter.

    • toddestan@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 days ago

      Meanwhile, my work Windows laptop is significantly slower to wake up now as I’m forced to hibernate it thanks to them removing S3 sleep in favor of the modern standby shit.

    • dbtng@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      Despite OP insisting otherwise, I’m gonna assume you are correct. I use a lot of flavors of linux for a lot of things, but I don’t have it on a laptop (other than as an alt boot in case of a crash), so it seems logical to me that’s why this joke went over my head.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
      133·
      3 days ago

      It was mostly because of Nvidia drivers. So many Linux issues is just Nvidia related.

      • FishFace@lemmy.world
        13·
        3 days ago

        Bs, I have had so many sleep issues on laptops without Nvidia graphics cards.

        The most recent issue I had was something inhibiting sleep that I couldn’t disable.

        Before that it was being unable to decrypt the hibernate data on an encrypted disk.

    • devfuuu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      162·
      3 days ago

      sleep and hibernate work fine on linux. I remember the olden days like 15 years ago where nothing of it worked. contrary to the stupid macos that was forced onto me which sleep means nothing and just keeps draining my bluetooth headphones battery anyway instead of turning off when I tell it to.

      • herrvogel@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 day ago

        Absolutely not. Nvidia GPUs and some network cards can and will break sleep on Linux. It’s currently very much broken on my machine and I stopped trying to fix it. Up until a few days ago the PC failed to properly power down to a sleep state and would leave a whole bunch of things powered up, like the monitor and the fans and the lights. Now it’s even worse. On top of all that, the computer goes right back into sleep seconds after it wakes up. Extremely annoying.

        I use arch btw.

      • pemptago@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        3 days ago

        Every few updates my Pop_OS! suspend would break (sleep and not wake, or sleep and wake immediately). I could never figure it out beyond knowing NVIDIA was the source. Worked around it by swapping my graphics card to a comparable AMD card-- now my machine sleeps like a baby.

    • tal@olio.cafeEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      You’d still need to turn it on if it’s in hibernate. Well, you might not need to push the power button, might have a laptop that can, while off, key off the lid switch. But the laptop’s still off when it’s hibernated.

      • dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org
        6·
        3 days ago

        my desktop and server get rebooted about once a month unless they get a new kernel or are pissing me off.

        my laptop is dead about 50% of the time i turn it on.

  • B-TR3E@feddit.org
    731·
    3 days ago

    First of all, our computers are always on. Those kernels don’t compile themselves, three times a day. Secondarily we could, at least, turn our machines on without having to install a dozen of updates before having to reboot again.

  • LordKitsuna@lemmy.world
    21·
    3 days ago

    The problem is that by the time I have said that to them it’s already to desktop. I cursed Myself by having an operating system that is fast and efficient and I also did not install 18 different applications that open at boot. So now I just feel left out from the group not waiting for my computer to finish booting :(